Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: I'm wrong or Will we fix the ducks limp? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 21:57:49 +1000 Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <87mvn22veg.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <13108bea-6750-443b-bee8-0532aba8b338@googlegroups.com> <5753c89b$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465148542.2670061.628500777.62F1EFE1@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5754f36b$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465186088.3554819.628831041.19D0DC8D@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de ZBspNXpFMO4HSC6X3FJqdQOssCLhy32mHcyM8Egm9YtA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.073 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'objects.': 0.09; 'received:74.125.82.44': 0.15; 'variables': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'object,': 0.27; 'once.': 0.29; 'objects': 0.29; 'related': 0.32; 'statement': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'exist': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:74.125.82': 0.35; 'possible': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'requirement': 0.37; 'means': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'more': 0.63; 'battle,': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'bags': 0.91; 'notion': 0.91; 'live.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=sA0GL35pTVDiWVMEnFONwi27r1RR3w4wQ5GuodH/T6M=; b=mG+d8VlNS00u31tjb1bPIs28z47jL25x37ilRAM/RRs90fMgxFKVDIrvHikI39XGAS LFpOGwIr1mbi+vhD9M1nST66WFN3wWGUgKp+x3MdWr61/hzKOPmtdpO14MAmicN7ML0j i8h+FkRPquui8O9LJUo/os9nCh8U4rXwtUjERIKI5ChdZ8rnIuQsaGpK8yeicZEGb8h6 C0+WhpdmYGoi01CMnUPD3/VkouosAOVUHgPfLsb4dJijcV7+toY5E949c1fL+l93Ih65 zoCIO6neMLZNjPH0s4yYIOJsMEV2LkaRMsOW73GODDFu1XdLGwH6o9JepkRl1KPdNXVU VvMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=sA0GL35pTVDiWVMEnFONwi27r1RR3w4wQ5GuodH/T6M=; b=XmKFnTvT2oTBGh/rkbtBww/NnqgzaQJFczQKjFUs7doih0CKkKfdBZ6rub66MC+B+t hIqw3KV4QlJWbNEfG0ozR6ccmc1ejs1saa21gMwqL7TDkt290Z0tQKZK9bApNw+9ss6J XZxr1URxSql0iHZ/ZslJIh+69gU37Bm9i3KCSGiFcaU0R4/PiIHhkE2xUuwKbxQuWdt5 cCRGr9OwHIsj7K12JrAPYijPHwnDU69d4LctdeFXEL0ZcYhKA1kOZxi8SnYKu7fzE8Ku kZlCDpebH2sNxBml5yQmJLTZ8v0Xzd74FRDDJGXwaM1JgprTp4/3aYVsLf+2v8xxtGmp eV1A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKFKGQDo/OsrYPeB6pfP0/TPfjAfOBx5z86VWAd/itCloq/lZLkHQJP5ftRKZgoM1sxhMGYlPfpqPqBxQ== X-Received: by 10.194.91.194 with SMTP id cg2mr16214041wjb.47.1465214270858; Mon, 06 Jun 2016 04:57:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1465186088.3554819.628831041.19D0DC8D@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <87mvn22veg.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <13108bea-6750-443b-bee8-0532aba8b338@googlegroups.com> <5753c89b$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465148542.2670061.628500777.62F1EFE1@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5754f36b$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465186088.3554819.628831041.19D0DC8D@webmail.messagingengine.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109554 On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Random832 wrote: > My statement was that if two variables can be bound to the same object, > then variables *cannot* contain objects. The object has to exist > somewhere, and this requirement means that the variables cannot be where > the objects live. Then the problem is with your notion of containment. Have a think about TARDISes, and the place the Narnians got to after the Last Battle, and Bags of Holding, and various other related concepts. It's perfectly possible for something to be 'inside' more than one thing at once. ChrisA