Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Don't put your software in the public domain Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 23:46:34 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <574ef865$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5751539f$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <575236a6$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465098394.960291.628179457.5889267B@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de vIqeHlPLKZ7atXnTYGzj3g6oLvyRbEyGIK0InV1zPioA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'open-source': 0.04; 'authorize': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'subject:software': 0.09; 'cease': 0.16; "industry's": 0.16; 'infringement': 0.16; 'manner,': 0.16; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'rights,': 0.16; 'subject:domain': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'conjunction': 0.18; 'essential': 0.20; 'purposes': 0.20; 'machine': 0.21; '(a)': 0.22; 'proprietary': 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'software.': 0.25; 'fri,': 0.27; 'tend': 0.27; 'possession': 0.29; 'subject:public': 0.29; 'another': 0.32; 'common': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'surprised': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'step': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'created': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; '(2)': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; '(1)': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'takes': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'claim': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'making': 0.62; 'buying': 0.67; 'subject:your': 0.75; '"owner': 0.84; 'end-user': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'statutory': 0.91; 'subject:Don': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=jJbesEyFbZpEQPUE0DrHdDEzhQM=; b=f8JzOJ rgZTWlUJwP88EFQZQXRwHw0fE23KibFMDQQxLjPbmkdbc0ydUplqhw88LN8e+fUi di+KVQFsMf46gwAuu5aJxxfWEIzLTsKOy6XCFEJOmXBvq9swNqkuDKrrDOeKNBjr t7owmTpfIiBVZHQMUj8fGVLxN/oOrGncQM3/E= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=jJbesEyFbZpEQPU E0DrHdDEzhQM=; b=BblX4p6EVRXxXy1w2EEVWWWME8B+RCDugelmu6Tetyy+tAa I/ftwcylJPU6Ikujlt/9X/Z5IdqUwvFbZVagJ18vVbFEwix7kBUHWL/c7GwC45+u UuSbQu3+JEel74rmsD0k+vzyHO+6jBiCiSQnkADDHFfNpyfc9+TGdkG8jtmU= X-Sasl-Enc: Nob+5SvFyMd2et0oVanu1S1wRlz9lXLXu7RW8Q97Pa08 1465098394 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2bd3df2b In-Reply-To: <575236a6$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1465098394.960291.628179457.5889267B@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <574ef865$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5751539f$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <575236a6$0$22142$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109493 On Fri, Jun 3, 2016, at 22:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (I am surprised that it takes so little to grant end-user usage > rights, but IANAL and presumably the FSF's lawyers consider that > sufficient. Perhaps there are common law usage rights involved.) Technically, there are statutory usage rights; 17 USC 117 (a) (1): (a)Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.=E2=80=94Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided: (1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or (2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful. The proprietary software industry's continued ability to make demands in an EULA rests on a rather shaky (though less than it was in the box-full-of-disks days) theory that buying software does not in fact make you the "owner of a copy", something that open-source types don't tend to claim regarding their own software. (IANAL either of course)