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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:43:20 -0800
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:38:36 -0800, "W. eWatson"
<wolftracks@invalid.com> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at 
> an end.
> 
> It may be time to move on to c++.

	Well, if you are staying with M$ Windows, maybe look into PowerShell
(it comes with Win7, and can be downloaded for WinXP).

	Even has an IDE (strangely named: powershell_ise.exe; put
"powershell_ise" into the search box on Win7 and see what it gets you --
plain "powershell.exe" is the equivalent of cmd.exe [the common command
line window]).

	The opening help page gives:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Windows PowerShell is a new Windows command-line shell designed
especially for system administrators. The Windows PowerShell includes an
interactive prompt and a scripting environment that can be used
independently or in combination. 

Unlike most shells, which accept and return text, Windows PowerShell is
built on top of the .NET Framework common language runtime (CLR) and the
.NET Framework, and accepts and returns .NET Framework objects. This
fundamental change in the environment brings entirely new tools and
methods to the management and configuration of Windows.

Windows PowerShell introduces the concept of a cmdlet (pronounced
"command-let"), a simple, single-function command-line tool built into
the shell. You can use each cmdlet separately, but their power is
realized when you use these simple tools in combination to perform
complex tasks. Windows PowerShell includes more than one hundred basic
core cmdlets, and you can write your own cmdlets and share them with
other users.

Like many shells, Windows PowerShell gives you access to the file system
on the computer. In addition, Windows PowerShell providers enable you to
access other data stores, such as the registry and the digital signature
certificate stores, as easily as you access the file system.

This Getting Started guide provides an introduction to Windows
PowerShell: the language, the cmdlets, the providers, and the use of
objects.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	Since it uses .NET CLR, it should even be possible to invoke the
.NET GUI library functions (or code something up in Visual Basic or
Visual C# that can be invoked from PowerShell).

	The IDE can even invoke a shell on a remote computer (probably has
to have Powershell installed).

	Downside? Well, it IS M$ & Windows...

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