Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'assign': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'identifier': 0.09; 'minus': 0.09; 'nameerror:': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'underscore': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; '"-"': 0.16; '66,': 0.16; 'identifier.': 0.16; 'message- id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'parameter:': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'subtraction': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'element': 0.17; 'tim': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'variable': 0.20; 'meant': 0.21; 'permitted': 0.22; 'defined': 0.22; 'pass': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'values': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; 'css': 0.27; 'there.': 0.28; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'chase': 0.29; 'optional': 0.29; 'performing': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'traceback': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; '(with': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'moment': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'instead': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'john': 0.60; 'smith': 0.71; 'article': 0.78 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Intermediate Python user needed help Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:15:42 +0100 References: <506eb405-eb07-4175-9efb-40475cabacf1@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-30-1.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120805-0, 05/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1344204893 news.xs4all.nl 6899 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44099 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26574 On 05/08/2012 22:32, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Tim Chase wrote: > >> On 08/05/12 15:52, John Mordecai Dildy wrote: >>> Current Problem at the moment >>> >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "ex26.py", line 66, in >>> beans, jars, crates = secret_formula(start-point) >>> NameError: name 'start' is not defined >>> >>> anyone know how to make start defined >> >> "start-point" is not a valid identifier as the "-" isn't permitted >> in a variable name. This is the case for just about every language >> out there. HTML/XML & CSS are the only languages that come to my >> mind in which the dash is considered a valid part of an identifier. >> >> You either mean something like "start_point" (with an underscore >> instead of a minus), or you're performing a subtraction of "start >> minus point", in which case you'd have to assign those values before >> you use them. > > Or he meant to pass an optional parameter: > > beans, jars, crates = secret_formula(start=point) > > or an element access: > > beans, jars, crates = secret_formula(start.point) > > or a bunch of other possibilities. > Like it, marks out of 10, 15 :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.