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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:22:12 -0300
From: Andre Ramaciotti <andre@ramaciotti.com>
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On 08/05/2012 06:12 PM, MRAB wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 22:03, Tim Chase wrote:
>> On 08/05/12 15:52, John Mordecai Dildy wrote:
>>> Current Problem at the moment
>>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File "ex26.py", line 66, in <module>
>>>     beans, jars, crates = secret_formula(start-point)
>>> NameError: name 'start' is not defined
>>>
>>> anyone know how to make start defined
>>
>> "start-point" is not a valid identifier as the "-" isn't permitted
>> in a variable name.  This is the case for just about every language
>> out there.  HTML/XML & CSS are the only languages that come to my
>> mind in which the dash is considered a valid part of an identifier.
>>
> I believe that Cobol allows "-"  in names.
>
Lisp certainly does.