Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'assign': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'identifier': 0.09; 'minus': 0.09; 'nameerror:': 0.09; 'underscore': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.10; 'language': 0.14; '"-"': 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; '66,': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'identifier.': 0.16; 'message-id:@tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'received:70.251': 0.16; 'received:dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:swbell.net': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'subtraction': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'variable': 0.20; 'permitted': 0.22; 'defined': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'values': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; 'css': 0.27; 'there.': 0.28; 'performing': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'traceback': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; '(with': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'moment': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'instead': 0.39; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'john': 0.60; 'received:50.22': 0.84 Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:03:50 -0500 From: Tim Chase User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Mordecai Dildy Subject: Re: Intermediate Python user needed help References: <506eb405-eb07-4175-9efb-40475cabacf1@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <506eb405-eb07-4175-9efb-40475cabacf1@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1344200565 news.xs4all.nl 6943 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59381 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26561 On 08/05/12 15:52, John Mordecai Dildy wrote: > Current Problem at the moment > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "ex26.py", line 66, in > beans, jars, crates = secret_formula(start-point) > NameError: name 'start' is not defined > > anyone know how to make start defined "start-point" is not a valid identifier as the "-" isn't permitted in a variable name. This is the case for just about every language out there. HTML/XML & CSS are the only languages that come to my mind in which the dash is considered a valid part of an identifier. You either mean something like "start_point" (with an underscore instead of a minus), or you're performing a subtraction of "start minus point", in which case you'd have to assign those values before you use them. -tkc