Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!194.109.133.87.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.093 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.81; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; '"about': 0.16; '"python': 0.16; 'fix,': 0.16; 'received:your- server.de': 0.16; 'users.': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'all,': 0.21; 'fairly': 0.21; 'doc': 0.22; 'second': 0.24; 'tried': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'charset:iso-8859-15': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; '+0100,': 0.29; 'feature,': 0.29; 'searches': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'skip:_ 10': 0.29; "skip:' 10": 0.30; 'call.': 0.30; 'window': 0.30; 'seconds': 0.30; '(and': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.32; 'generally': 0.32; 'good.': 0.32; 'johnson': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'page.': 0.33; 'scroll': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'too.': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'unable': 0.36; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'page': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'google': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'bottom': 0.60; 'link': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'making': 0.64; 'great': 0.64; 'results': 0.65; 'obvious': 0.71; 'low': 0.83; '2013': 0.84; 'way)': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.88; 'rick': 0.91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs? References: <512cb0a0$0$30001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57fd0b09-b30d-4e62-845a-aac198113a40@googlegroups.com> <54967758-e84c-4b9c-a09c-10fbdbec230f@googlegroups.com> <63b306c9-db6f-4c4c-b3c6-4c602ba31201@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <20130306114842.c0da03f1ba6a3c99d429f3a8@lavabit.com> <2d3eea1e-db12-4448-80b3-2743866a2d42@googlegroups.com> <857d97ed-7c86-43c9-9751-9728652ac122@hd10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:04:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.6/16793/Wed Mar 6 16:07:08 2013) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 68 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1362621879 news.xs4all.nl 6908 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45313 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:40685 On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:28:10 +0100, Chris Kaynor wrote: > I actually just tried that, and the results weren't very good. > > Using the doc's search feature, the "Reporting Bugs" (and the "About > these documents") page >was significantly down the page (about 2/3 of > the way) - not the most obvious result in the pile. All the >other > searches I could think of either didn't return either of those pages at > all, or they were also 1/2-2/3 >of the way down the page. > > Using Google it took me about 3 seconds to find the page. "python report doc bug". Works with Bing or DuckDuckGo too. First hit on either engine. The doc's search is ... fine if I search for e. g. 'subprocess.Popen', but near-useless for general searches. > > The link is also on the main documentation page, but it is, again, near > the bottom, making it hidden from >many users. Both of them show up just > above the bottom of the window with it maximized on my screen. > > > > The first of the issues may be difficult to fix, Is it? You'd just have to have an additional search box labeld "search whole page with google/bing/whatever" (?) > but would likely be fairly useful - that would generally be my first > port of call. The second one is more >minor as most people will scroll > down to see whats farther down, if they go to the main page to find the > >links. > > > > Chris > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:06 PM, alex23 wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 7, 10:47 am, Rick Johnson wrote: >> >>> That's great Terry, but how will the next person find the link? >> >> >> >> Why do you have such a low opinion of others that you think they're >> >> unable to look up "Reporting Bugs" in the _documentation_? >> >> -- >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >> >