Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'url:blog': 0.09; 'python': 0.09; 'already.': 0.09; 'explanation': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'url:voidspace': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'advance': 0.10; 'suggest': 0.11; 'aug': 0.13; 'language': 0.14; 'dictionaries': 0.16; 'message-id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:oriented': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'url:oreilly': 0.16; 'url:shtml': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'python?': 0.20; 'together.': 0.21; 'oriented': 0.22; "i'd": 0.22; 'example': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; 'bruce': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'question': 0.27; 'c++': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'trouble': 0.28; '>>>>': 0.29; 'jean': 0.29; 'question:': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'starts': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'unlike': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'programming,': 0.33; 'url:event': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'thanks': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'posting': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'explain': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:with': 0.36; 'skip:p 20': 0.36; 'pdf': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'object': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'url:docs': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'little': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'url:index': 0.61; 'url:%20': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'making': 0.64; 'here': 0.65; 'difficulty': 0.65; 'url:%1': 0.68; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'url:books': 0.84; 'url:oop': 0.84; 'video:': 0.84; 'forgotten': 0.91; 'url:assets': 0.91; 'url:tutorial': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:53:01 +0100 References: <54b916fe-9e2d-4f9e-b533-b5ecf677c8a5@a19g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <8f1b60a5-0411-4aae-9ee6-0025b493ca2d@m13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-0-136.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120805-0, 05/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 77 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1344192625 news.xs4all.nl 6853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42250 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26545 On 05/08/2012 19:43, Ifthikhan Nazeem wrote: [top posting fixed] > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> On 05/08/2012 19:04, Jean Dubois wrote: >> >>> On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages >>>> (C++/Java) object-orientation is not a be all and end all in Python, in >>>> fact you could work with Python for a long time without really 'doing it' >>>> at all (well other than calling methods/properties on existing API's). >>>> Having said that here's what I would suggest ... >>>> >>>> Could do worse than this : >>>> >>>> http://www.diveintopython.net/**object_oriented_framework/**index.html >>>> >>>> This example seems to tell you need the concept of dictionaries to >>> explain object oriented programming, is this really necessary? >>> >>>> and this >>>> >>>> http://docs.python.org/**tutorial/classes.html >>>> >>> Unfortunately, the trouble with this explanation is exactly what made >>> me ask the original question: it starts from concepts in c++ making it >>> very hard to understand for someone who does not know that language >>> already. >>> >>>> >>>> read together. >>>> >>>> Judging by your question this is a probably a little advanced for now >>>> but you could bookmark it for the future: >>>> >>>> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/**learning-python-design-** >>>> patterns-through-. >>>> .. >>>> >>>> Here's the corresponding PDF to go with the video: >>>> >>>> http://assets.en.oreilly.com/**1/event/45/Practical%20Python%** >>>> 20Patterns. >>>> .. >>>> >>> Can someone here on this list give a trivial example of what object >>> oriented programming is, using only Python? >>> >>> thanks in advance >>> Jean >>> >>> >> Try this http://www.voidspace.org.uk/**python/articles/OOP.shtml??? >> >> -- >> Cheers. >> >> Mark Lawrence. >> >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list >> > > I would recommend Bruce Eckel's Thining in Python. Check it out here > http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIPython/ > > I'd forgotten about that so thanks for the reminder. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.