Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'apps,': 0.07; 'overflow': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'anyway': 0.11; 'aug': 0.13; 'sat,': 0.15; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'sink': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '(or': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'subject:skip:i 10': 0.22; 'paul': 0.24; 'leave': 0.26; 'realize': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; '-0700,': 0.29; 'contrast,': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'stuff': 0.30; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'compared': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'enough': 0.36; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'air': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'great': 0.64; 'electrical': 0.71; 'jet': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91; 'shocked': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: On-topic: alternate Python implementations Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:09:05 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <501cbdf8$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <501cff63$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7x1ujmabs9.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <501dc461$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-253-97-40.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1344136155 news.xs4all.nl 6848 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41067 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26522 On 05 Aug 2012 00:54:57 GMT, Steven D'Aprano declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 08:59:18 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: > > > C isn't so great for high-assurance stuff either, compared to (say) Ada. > > People do use it in critical apps, but that's just because it is (or > > anyway used to be) so ubiquitous. > > And then they are shocked, SHOCKED I say!, when their app has enough > buffer overflow security vulnerabilities to sink a battleship. > > [half a wink] > {adding the other half} One has to realize that it is quite difficult to sink said battleship -- a complete electrical system failure will still leave it floating... In contrast, keeping an inherently unstable, fly by wire, fighter jet in the air is much more difficult... -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/