Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'case.': 0.05; 'completeness': 0.07; 'nasty': 0.07; 'received:155': 0.09; 'subject:Getting': 0.09; 'thread,': 0.09; '(where': 0.15; 'sat,': 0.15; '24,': 0.16; '3:27': 0.16; 'disclaimers': 0.16; 'disclaimers,': 0.16; 'from:addr:jpmorgan.com': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'received:155.180': 0.16; 'received:155.180.234': 0.16; 'received:159.53': 0.16; 'received:bankone.net': 0.16; 'received:exchad.jpmchase.net': 0.16; 'received:jpmchase.com': 0.16; 'received:jpmchase.net': 0.16; 'received:svr.bankone.net': 0.16; 'regenerate': 0.16; 'securities,': 0.16; 'url:disclosures': 0.16; 'url:jpmorgan': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'instance,': 0.17; 'items.': 0.17; 'previously': 0.18; 'to:name :python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'bit': 0.21; 'constant': 0.22; 'player': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'random': 0.24; 'received:169.254': 0.24; 'thus': 0.24; 'idea': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'guess': 0.27; 'wonder': 0.27; 'accuracy': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'all.': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'coded': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'trigger': 0.29; 'received:169': 0.29; 'usually': 0.30; 'sense': 0.31; 'goes': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'screen': 0.34; 'nov': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'except': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'depends': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'most': 0.61; 'real': 0.61; 'map': 0.61; 'stay': 0.61; 'time,': 0.62; 'life,': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; 'information,': 0.63; 'url:email': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'behavior': 0.64; 'legal': 0.65; 'subject': 0.66; 'purchase': 0.67; 'stated': 0.69; 'sale': 0.76; 'absolutely': 0.84; 'fresh.': 0.84; 'games.': 0.84; 'received:169.254.8': 0.84; 'subject:value': 0.84; 'treasure': 0.84; 'why?': 0.84; 'does?': 0.91 X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.1.3 sz2.jpmchase.com qAQKHmZl005027 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jpmorgan.com; s=smtpout; t=1353961068; bh=p+CH4qNTYstYtHdw+5c7svCCnEz0dmfzd6ECm/N2iFo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pI/X1HzJ1lmVDCzB/MAAcsIfktJ71gDtvUy5+4iGbqoO2M7g72O69vyUQZs/o898Y rCaSyBZTXSCMl8ni0nR0ZTIah1JAeFC1HMTcZ+39dY5mRkhi+GYNgCwKRf3Ago1Dm6 gU8uWCMornmtnP/jJmO/Gm7/DVr29l2kiUArYp6I= From: "Prasad, Ramit" To: "python-list@python.org" Subject: RE: Getting a seeded value from a list Thread-Topic: Getting a seeded value from a list Thread-Index: AQHNx5r7pEpTN5Z0VUWG5rAh2hYyapf3mjvQgAC/TACABDd6wA== Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:17:40 +0000 References: <993b9303-dbca-43f1-9ff4-9677278776b1@googlegroups.com> <50ac4ee7$0$21790$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <5B80DD153D7D744689F57F4FB69AF474167D1967@SBECMX007.exchad.jpmchase.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.67.79.47] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP-FWD: Yes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1353961077 news.xs4all.nl 6967 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40986 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33942 Chris Angelico wrote:=0D=0A> =0D=0A> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Prasa= d, Ramit=0D=0A> wrote:=0D=0A> > Steven D'Ap= rano wrote:=0D=0A> >>=0D=0A> >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:41:24 +1100, Chris A= ngelico wrote:=0D=0A> >>=0D=0A> >> > However, this still means that the pla= yer will see the exact same level=0D=0A> >> > regenerated every time, absol= utely fresh=2E As previously stated in this=0D=0A> >> > thread, that's not = usually a good thing for encounters, treasure, etc=2E=0D=0A> >> > Once some= nasty critter has been killed, he should STAY killed! :)=0D=0A> >>=0D=0A> = >> Why? That isn't true in real life, why should it be true for games?=0D= =0A> >>=0D=0A> >=0D=0A> > It is not true in all games=2E I have seen games = where treasures=0D=0A> > regenerate in the same location except for key ite= ms=2E Same goes=0D=0A> > for enemies (where only "bosses" do not regenerate= )=2E It really=0D=0A> > just depends on the type of game you are playing--d= esigning=0D=0A> > in this case=2E=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Perhaps they regenerate, b= ut do they regenerate from the exact same=0D=0A> random seed? For instance,= in Murkon's Refuge, the maps are=0D=0A> handcrafted and thus constant ever= y time you enter a particular level=0D=0A> - but go downstairs and upstairs= , and the monsters and treasure=0D=0A> regenerate, different from last time= =2E=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Of course, if the idea is that you're rewinding time, th= en it makes=0D=0A> good sense for you to see the exact same pattern of enem= ies=2E=0D=0A> =0D=0A=0D=0AHmm=2E I guess most of the games where I remember= "regenerating"=0D=0Aenemies are a bit older=2E Chrono Trigger had enemies = that =0D=0Awould regenerate if you left a map screen and came back, but=0D= =0Athen again it seems more likely that the enemies were hard=0D=0Acoded an= d not "generated" at all=2E Either that or they [games] are=0D=0Alike Diabl= o/Castlevania where monsters are constantly "generated"=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AI sti= ll hold the opinion that the seeding behavior depends on the =0D=0Agame=2E = I wonder what Nethack does?=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A~Ramit=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AThis e= mail is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and=0D=0Aconditio= ns including on offers for the purchase or sale of=0D=0Asecurities, accurac= y and completeness of information, viruses,=0D=0Aconfidentiality, legal pri= vilege, and legal entity disclaimers,=0D=0Aavailable at http://www=2Ejpmorg= an=2Ecom/pages/disclosures/email=2E