Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'granted,': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; '"to': 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; ':-/': 0.16; 'courts': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'mandate': 0.16; 'sheer': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; '(in': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'basis,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'respective': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'sets': 0.30; 'spirit': 0.31; 'regular': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; 'framework': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'clear': 0.37; 'first': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'american': 0.66; 'legal': 0.71; 'miss': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'protect': 0.79; 'exclusive': 0.81; 'misses': 0.84; 'reading,': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'confidence': 0.95 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:48:59 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: Mark Janssen Subject: Re: Re-using copyrighted code In-Reply-To: References: <51B450C1.5030506@berlin.de> <51B4DCA2.9000903@gmail.com> <51b51d42$0$30001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370832428 news.xs4all.nl 15905 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54386 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47511 On 2013-06-09 19:30, Mark Janssen wrote: > Thanks for digging out the legal code. Upon reading, it is > stunningly clear that the legal system has not established a solid > framework or arching philosophy in which to contain and express the > desire (in law) to protect content creators of all kinds or the > general public with the fair use of such works and has been running > on the sheer confidence of "the American spirit", however facile or > misdirected that may be. What is clear is the mandate that sets up the framework in the first place: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries" -- USC Article I, Section 8 If it doesn't "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts", then it misses the spirit of the law as drafted. Granted, courts seem to miss that interpretation on a regular basis, leaving me a bit disgusted at the whole mess. :-/ -tkc