Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'called.': 0.16; 'earlier.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'url:faq': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'help.': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'faq': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'raise': 0.29; 'besides': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'pascal': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:new': 0.38; 'subject:]': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'catch': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'mar': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'virus,': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'subject:Proposal': 0.91; 'urls,': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: VB/Pascal with statement [was Re: Proposal for new minor syntax] Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 13:44:26 +0000 References: <9c9703b6-cfa6-4e91-900e-3a401562cb9e@googlegroups.com> <5516498e$0$13014$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5516a58a$0$12987$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-175-14.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <5516a58a$0$12987$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1427550302 news.xs4all.nl 2847 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57470 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:88226 On 28/03/2015 12:58, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 11:26 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> On 28/03/2015 06:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >>> Pascal is another language with a construct like that, and there's a FAQ >>> for it: >>> >>> > https://docs.python.org/2/faq/design.html#why-doesn-t-python-have-a-with-statement-for-attribute-assignments > > > >> >>> help('FAQ') >> no Python documentation found for 'FAQ' >> >> Less than useless, now what? > > > Did you try googling? > > help("google") Fails in just the same way. Do I raise a bug report on the issue tracker? > > Or you could read the URL I gave earlier. > I don't want to read URLs, I prefer the interactive help. Besides which you could be trying to lure me to a site where I'd catch a cold, or virus, or whatever it's called. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence