Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.048 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.01; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'subject:using': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; '"copyright': 0.16; "(i'm": 0.16; 'effect,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; 'mon,': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'have,': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'away.': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'license': 0.66; 'legal': 0.71; 'secret': 0.74; 'touch': 0.74; 'pain': 0.84; 'sourcing': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NURx3vba3zV/eI99OZUa5fQrhQdAeMoe1KUjAFiUQvI=; b=bz0VjkmApnyTqKhdzND8kBNSio5tTGoanM+CzUgcWPtsP8frMhIOhjsd0P5S0bywfs rM5aST/wHpqb4wiTlB7Xtt+g5jDi//XYZe4ooZxm1dHeQEspttcIf+vlTURTbh1TmUel b6BXVQ98WgRKwXExKjoYkh2gjYgcQJj3vKFTuyEuuh1lvA5m++TIgy3zLXFrdKB+gEWM sGJBAZz9Wp9hVLJzs73bqDcONB/qatzsfR9pgATCPanYaB2it3FY+Y95qQ3ClieI5jid v1bnkV0rS+yq7sei6PsGy/Ascx5pydsPMy9VocE/YlYpDBXQt7Z8au7UPdodOIqNmy9j dY0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.164.163 with SMTP id yr3mr3050051vdb.76.1370792612758; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:43:32 +1000 Subject: Re: Re-using copyrighted code From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370792623 news.xs4all.nl 15914 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51400 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47469 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Mark Janssen wrote: >> The Secret Labs license is very explicit: "All rights reserved". That line means you can't touch it under pain of lawsuit. > > That's not true. It means whatever rights they do have, they are > stating, in effect, that they have not given them away. But this is a > difficult legal point, because by open sourcing their IP, they've > already given away from of their rights. They start by reserving all rights. Then they say "And you may use this, on these conditions". This is the normal order of things. The words "All rights reserved" don't actually add anything, now. (I'm given to understand they used to have significance, at least in some jurisdictions, but not any more.) So just "Copyright " is sufficient. ChrisA