Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'builtin': 0.07; 'operand': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'special,': 0.09; 'typeerror:': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'aug': 0.13; 'sat,': 0.15; "'int'": 0.16; 'namespace.': 0.16; 'unsupported': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'import': 0.21; '"",': 0.22; 'either.': 0.22; 'sorry,': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'least': 0.25; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; 'am,': 0.27; 'module.': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; "i'm": 0.29; 'url:python': 0.32; 'file': 0.32; 'traceback': 0.33; 'pm,': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'url:library': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'object': 0.38; 'url:docs': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'places': 0.61; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'type(s)': 0.84; 'angel': 0.93 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:03:20 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: attribute is accessed from Nonetype References: <501A5EAF.9090501@davea.name> <5B80DD153D7D744689F57F4FB69AF4741659DDF5@SCACMX008.exchad.jpmchase.net> <501C4EB1.80003@davea.name> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:lHYV2RNX44a9fOHRhpsoOcRKbN2dmEZUnJO+Y+tI/6+ ecNaVVG6XRP0VOTuCU2vYCk6upjz57ag54oyM4H1fVuNyrn0aj H0Lx4nSGs0rsEtdN4NbYkQ+R0iWGwoZIKGbv4pmXrauJsmSIHG oJ6oelxzIezKaClMK+HjLm2MoypumiafHOuCfuV8IFL5++c239 TEc+ZP85suoPlIq7tZLM1VgjduajS5pITVqbdGM91xwMhqa/m2 IhMieng5P5h6pN5scDLJ6T5Jeecx+3O55yIzW1237IN8cQUImj eS+e7tNH7NWpZE+DIkJENLY0qzSJoX0biMEXWb+c1MeJnjs6A= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1344035030 news.xs4all.nl 6880 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46671 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26460 On 08/03/2012 06:41 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dave Angel wrote: >> I'm sorry, what's not clear? Nonetype is not the same as NoneType. >> Python is case sensitive. > There isn't a NoneType either. I get a NameError. > > ChrisA NoneType isn't in the builtin namespace. It's in the types module. import types a = types.Nonetype It's still special, because None is a singleton. In any case there are a number of places where the string "NoneType" is produced, >>> type(None) >>> None + 3 Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'int' >>> None[3] Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable etc. and it's in the docs, at least on page: http://docs.python.org/library/constants.html -- DaveA