Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: The next major Python version will be Python 8 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 11:13:43 +1100 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <56FDBC3B.80202@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Q0ajwylreJ89ubEJ9GKi+geE9wqULOi4aAg5PadyXtHw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'subject:version': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'psf': 0.12; '11:09': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'naive': 0.16; 'problem!': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'am,': 0.23; 'code.': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; "doesn't": 0.26; 'figure': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'subject:next': 0.29; 'there.': 0.30; 'becomes': 0.30; 'everyone': 0.31; 'point': 0.33; 'legacy': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'release': 0.37; 'no,': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'close': 0.61; 'subject:The': 0.61; 'hope': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'minutes': 0.64; 'decided': 0.66; 'dangerous': 0.70; 'secret': 0.72; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'ideas.': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'victor': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'ethan': 0.91; 'furman': 0.91; 'suffer': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=j3UWIWQG0YD/02x1qVOXfGsKOn+mQK6jEkRs5KqPt+w=; b=uv3CXcw2i9+Lu74L9ziCgryaPNGo2oc9zEcAGIRp5DA6JK/M9OjVYv/x7jUYextMLb VC+00VyYgU8ZTWqfzoWr3HBlBaVuvbfzo469xI8DvyjkQ1KPgNZOyVtczn12DLs3IEFZ KJsVoshinWPD1OfEzeRvgRGprIWKIkL9RnNL0OWGDWSsiXXWMiQSQVWGNTGg0nd2nq7d 11RXvcR32cCmVFYqvTd+fNMxYCy3M3KZ/SMB6eiwV/oAaTLzR5eLf7JIXLJMTenb0jYq wO28DqBGbdsh8kwDzdx1Li6YCpmYn+ToCYyL9tanMSeaBr/8DFPBVU2LxT/M6OdW1RQ/ UQyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=j3UWIWQG0YD/02x1qVOXfGsKOn+mQK6jEkRs5KqPt+w=; b=WhqhakoNM4nggxvG7OiJ+5yspC/Mxb2imClQWHhMSf0Ecldvu5BcI4Z9VUi5EJihID XYBMfm9SnONc804YtsDusxgehdlh0hveOokvAHEmeFWfBbSMmpR1sOeD1/hHcHFdxhgz Fz7aj/RvY2Mibe67f5EAUPdPZlnQpx50HpLi5X3fAvgwY5DGgw3OZJENGCYWEzOJ9fke Qek9jibAaNccyY4hW+g/h9iQogo0DltAhMeUcQfY4PIcGy6vBtRi28UvflDYhPpblR+2 pUgXySmNkQftbkLu358ohoOqiTSYLtJn/GixAhpqjPyWB24wuAY5tpSLIGCAMnfRh8Xx fHwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJL2J5FTd9RDoU18ZJlmU0xKa+2W83/4WHeR47ZCB9gaqDQyagd8WAuSF60bMo3rOQYwHb8I/B2MwRPaoA== X-Received: by 10.107.137.101 with SMTP id l98mr1676797iod.31.1459469623235; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:13:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56FDBC3B.80202@stoneleaf.us> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106196 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 03/31/2016 05:02 PM, Roel Schroeven wrote: >> >> Victor Stinner schreef op 2016-03-31 23:40: > > >>> Python 3 becomes more and more popular and is close to a dangerous point >>> where it can become popular that Python 2. The PSF decided that it's >>> time to elaborate a new secret plan to ensure that Python users suffer >>> again with a new major release breaking all their legacy code. >> >> >> "2016-03-31 23:40" >> You're 20 minutes early :) > > > No, that's a naive datetime. You need to travel to Victor's location to > figure out what that is there. > > I sure hope Python 8 doesn't have that problem! Now's the time to get in with the ideas. My proposal is that Python 8, in keeping with its new opinionated style, will require everyone to follow a single timezone: Europe/Amsterdam. ChrisA