Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: What is a function parameter =[] for? Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:15:48 -0700 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <564dbe6b$0$1610$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <564df258$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8601c9af-a7d9-4642-ba1c-8edd1e4c3390@googlegroups.com> <56546985.8060704@rece.vub.ac.be> <56547337.4000709@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de nJsZeSCv8S1SQ+t5AtZ4FgIqY4tpEmxIsbBp2S2xyxHQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'spec': 0.09; 'term,': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'itself.': 0.11; '24,': 0.16; 'definition.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'term.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; '2015': 0.20; 'do.': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'chris': 0.26; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'agreed': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; 'generally': 0.32; 'common': 0.33; 'definition': 0.34; 'tue,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'on,': 0.35; 'nov': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.61; 'to:name:python': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=cuhY0+TakFKeIkgoNHfPbrgIDVdXD5zgM1vbPh1ju6s=; b=GfvPM6tXgN4PxUV5R54u9l+1QCm44TXPpBccI4kGMnUTMcx/k2zuRmjTdsLO5gJG3s q+6TNKKDUnappYSoStTlzb6yuKslj00Htz1pcLll/5hvXFS3Ckz8HQPT+3I9h2sRzlfT KhM1vxWHPHWw52KK40raW0dN9hfv1ZACoOxc4Ab3w07r5FZHQVOnCVt1IquAjAbYQsJS XC0SH26oq2ZtDzH7vG04dk4WW4XiOTsdFNWXawpCd2q39VLzzScrg4Is6V1FoS3A/rgg iZr2ulXLiGJw94mE+czS3Y5+dOQ4BhtuCyW13cRaCXbOa/DQlGsvON/I9Y7mG1lh6XTQ iiEQ== X-Received: by 10.107.164.154 with SMTP id d26mr32048821ioj.111.1448392587976; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:16:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:99389 On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Random832 wrote: > On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Probably the grammar. In other words, it's part of the language's very >> definition. > > Then the definition is wrong. I think "literal" is a word whose meaning is > generally agreed on, rather than something each language's spec can invent from > whole cloth for itself. It's not a python term, it's a programming term. The Python language spec uses the word the same way that other language specs do. Is it the spec's usage that is wrong, or the common understanding of it?