Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!bcyclone02.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone02.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'zero.': 0.09; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'zero,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'say,': 0.18; 'sep': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'right.': 0.27; 'ray': 0.29; 'bill': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'languages': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'no,': 0.38; "didn't": 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'natural': 0.67; 'william': 0.79 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=CvRCCSMD c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kZ7UWmmPAAAA:8 a=wxkgmx3lyG_rHm1CgxcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500 Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. To: python-list@python.org References: <86fa425b-d660-45ba-b0f7-3beebdec8e14@googlegroups.com> <55EE9EEC.1060907@rece.vub.ac.be> <55ef0514$0$1655$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55efa62d$0$1653$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55f06ae1$0$1650$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3435A80B-14B9-4A7C-99D5-06D898297839@mac.com> From: MRAB Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:22:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3435A80B-14B9-4A7C-99D5-06D898297839@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441826569 news.xs4all.nl 23859 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33546 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 3787 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2672034861 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96214 On 2015-09-09 18:59, William Ray Wing wrote: > >> On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> > > [byte] > >> >> I think my favourite is the guy who claims that the reason natural languages >> all count from 1 is because the Romans failed to invent zero. (What about >> languages that didn't derive from Latin, say, Chinese?) > > Right. Note that the Arabs, who DID invent zero, still count from one. > No, they didn't invent zero. > Bill >