Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'means,': 0.07; 'valueerror:': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'argument,': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; '(but': 0.15; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'nan': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'sorting': 0.16; 'subject:fails': 0.16; 'summary,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'detect': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; '"",': 0.22; 'bug?': 0.22; 'defined': 0.22; 'feature': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'looks': 0.26; 'skip:[ 10': 0.26; '(most': 0.27; '(as': 0.27; '2.6': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; '3.1': 0.29; 'consequence': 0.29; 'received:192.168.1.3': 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'correctly.': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; 'values.': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'equal': 0.33; 'presence': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'list': 0.35; 'false': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'item': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'therefore': 0.65; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'believe': 0.69; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'correctly?': 0.84; 'reply-to:addr:python.org': 0.84 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=XYELPfF5 c=1 sm=1 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=b2nRVtXOy8EA:10 a=oCZfzfwVXioA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=OUOv7kDek9cA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=phWpdDf7YpoA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zfU4oGOqLZ_Pog-bjBoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:19:38 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: a.index(float('nan')) fails References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: python-list@python.org List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 47 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1351218162 news.xs4all.nl 6863 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38429 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32184 On 2012-10-26 03:04, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/25/2012 9:46 PM, mamboknave@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> a = [float('nan'), 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] >>>>> a >> [nan, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] >>>>> a.index(float('nan')) >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "", line 1, in >> ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list >> >> That means, the function .index() cannot detect nan values. >> It happens on both Python 2.6 and Python 3.1 >> >> Is this a bug? Or I am not using .index() correctly? > > It is a consequence of the following, which some people (but not all) > believe is mandated by the IEEE standard. > > >>> nan = float('nan') > >>> nan is nan > True > >>> nan == nan > False > > >>> nanlist = [nan] > >>> nan in nanlist > True > >>> nanlist.index(nan) > 0 > > Containment of nan in collection is tested by is, not ==. > > >>> nan2 = float('nan') > >>> nan2 is nan > False > >>> nan2 == nan > False > >>> nan2 in nanlist > False > In summary, .index() looks for an item which is equal to its argument, but it's a feature of NaN (as defined by the standard) that it doesn't equal NaN, therefore .index() will never find it. Another consequence is that the presence of a NaN in a list prevents .sort() from sorting correctly.