Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!194.134.4.91.MISMATCH!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'variables': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '-tkc': 0.16; 'alpha,': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'temp': 0.16; 'alpha': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "haven't": 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'absolute': 0.30; 'said,': 0.30; 'sets': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'question:': 0.31; 'bugs': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'reply': 0.66; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'carlos': 0.91 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 23:16:22 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: Carlos Nepomuceno Subject: Re: Idiomatic Python for incrementing pairs In-Reply-To: References: <20130607213239.3e39a448@bigbox.christie.dr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370664872 news.xs4all.nl 15964 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34381 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47365 On 2013-06-08 07:04, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote: > alpha, beta = (1 if some_calculation(params) else 0, 1 if > other_calculation(params) else 0) This one sets them to absolute values, rather than the incrementing functionality in question: > > alpha += temp_a > > beta += temp_b The actual code in question does the initialization outside a loop: alphas_updated = betas_updated = 0 for thing in bunch_of_things: a, b = process(thing) alphas_updated += a betas_updated += b and it just bugs me as being a little warty for having temp variables when Python does things like tuple-unpacking so elegantly. That said, as mentioned in a contemporaneous reply to Jason, I haven't found anything better that is still readable. -tkc