Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'compiler': 0.05; 'pypy': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:Python3': 0.09; 'subject:set': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'def': 0.10; '2.7:': 0.16; 'bitwise': 0.16; 'guessing': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:bit': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'bit': 0.21; 'import': 0.21; 'operations.': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'guess': 0.27; '(as': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; '>>>>': 0.29; 'clever': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'fast.': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'unlikely': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'fri,': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'point': 0.31; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'int': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'know.': 0.33; 'version': 0.34; 'skip:b 20': 0.34; 'christian': 0.34; 'faster': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'compare': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'skip:4 10': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'performance': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'profile': 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'times': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'number:': 0.65; 'results': 0.65; '26,': 0.65; '600': 0.71; 'guessed': 0.84; 'hand,': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: bit count or bit set && Python3 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:51:38 +0100 References: <5089511E.4090009@earthlink.net> <50896152$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50896407.8070706@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-17-218.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 In-Reply-To: <50896407.8070706@earthlink.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121025-1, 25/10/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 56 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1351201709 news.xs4all.nl 6853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42472 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32171 On 25/10/2012 17:08, Charles Hixson wrote: > On 10/25/2012 08:57 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:31:53 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Christian Heimes >>> wrote: >>>> Simple, easy, faster than a Python loop but not very elegant: >>>> >>>> bin(number).count("1") >>> Unlikely to be fast. >> Oh I don't know about that. Here's some timing results using Python 2.7: >> >> py> from timeit import Timer >> py> t = Timer('bin(number).count("1")', setup='number=2**10001-1') >> py> min(t.repeat(number=10000, repeat=7)) >> 0.6819710731506348 >> >> Compare to MRAB's suggestion: >> >> def count_set_bits(number): >> count = 0 >> while number: >> count += 1 >> number&= number - 1 >> return count >> >> py> t = Timer('count_set_bits(number)', >> ... setup='from __main__ import count_set_bits; number=2**10001-1') >> py> min(t.repeat(number=100, repeat=7)) >> 4.141788959503174 >> >> >> That makes the "inelegant" solution using bin() and count() about 600 >> times faster than the mathematically clever solution using bitwise >> operations. >> >> On the other hand, I'm guessing that PyPy would speed up MRAB's version >> significantly. >> >> >> > Really nice and good to know. I had guessed the other way. (As you > point out this is compiler dependent, and I'll be using Python3, > but...conversion from an int to a bit string must be a *lot* faster than > I had thought.) > The simple rule for Python performance is never guess anything as you'll invariably be wrong, time it and/or profile it, then change your code if and only if you have to. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.