Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.057 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'frameworks': 0.05; 'url:bitbucket': 0.05; 'api': 0.09; 'python': 0.09; 'commonly': 0.09; 'references,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'template': 0.11; 'decent': 0.16; 'descending': 0.16; 'email addr:gmail.com;': 0.16; 'first:': 0.16; 'ios': 0.16; 'multiplayer': 0.16; 'only?': 0.16; 'quick!': 0.16; 'subject:Tornado': 0.16; 'twisted': 0.16; 'wsgi': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'prototype': 0.17; 'widely': 0.17; 'examples': 0.18; '+0000': 0.20; 'all,': 0.21; 'thanks.': 0.21; 'fairly': 0.21; 'idea': 0.24; 'cc:2**1': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'cc:addr:gmail.com': 0.27; 'library.': 0.27; 'decide': 0.28; 'didnt': 0.29; 'learn,': 0.29; 'date:': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'related': 0.30; 'framework': 0.30; 'fri,': 0.30; 'url:2012': 0.30; 'compatible': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'skip:_ 30': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'doubt': 0.33; 'from:addr:live.com': 0.33; '(with': 0.33; 'code:': 0.33; 'requirements': 0.33; 'project': 0.34; 'thanks': 0.34; 'server': 0.35; 'list': 0.35; 'community': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'possible': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'from:': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'performance': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'application': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'days': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'real': 0.61; 'share': 0.61; 'email name:python-list': 0.62; 'engines': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'url:blogspot': 0.64; 'our': 0.65; 'results': 0.65; 'url:10': 0.65; 'reply': 0.66; 'articles': 0.69; 'email addr:live.com': 0.71; 'opinions': 0.72; 'yourself': 0.77; '+1100': 0.84; '2013': 0.84; '_little_': 0.84; 'game,': 0.84; 'hours!': 0.84; 'lean': 0.84; 'order:': 0.84; 'theres': 0.84; 'wish.': 0.84; 'outcome': 0.93; 'ipad': 0.95; 'charset:windows-1251': 0.97 X-EIP: [4YzJSS0mRZ5c2dXUcDbkU2podT54q9Cw] X-Originating-Email: [andriy.kornatskyy@live.com] From: Andriy Kornatskyy To: Jake Angulo Subject: RE: Twisted or Tornado? Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:07:44 +0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2013 08:07:44.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[83F192A0:01CE1978] Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 116 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1362470932 news.xs4all.nl 6955 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43838 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:40506 Jake=2C=0A= =0A= Don't you lock yourself in twisted application server only? I doubt you wil= l be able easily migrate to WSGI compatible application server as your need= s grow.=0A= =0A= Andriy=0A= =0A= ________________________________=0A= > From: jake.angulo@gmail.com =0A= > Date: Mon=2C 4 Mar 2013 10:35:41 +1100 =0A= > Subject: Re: Twisted or Tornado? =0A= > To: andriy.kornatskyy@live.com =0A= > CC: svenito@gmail.com=3B python-list@python.org =0A= > =0A= > =0A= > All=2C =0A= > =0A= > Thanks for your reply - I thought I would share the outcome of my choice:= =0A= > =0A= > I have chosen to use twisted. The API is very decent to learn=2C though = =0A= > the clincher is theres huge community / docs=2C and many projects used on= =0A= > production. =0A= > =0A= > I was able to make a working project prototype in hours! =0A= > Thanks to the large twisted library. =0A= > =0A= > Our project is an ipad multiplayer game=2C and we didnt want to use =0A= > existing servers because we want to do things exactly as we wish. =0A= > =0A= > Rgds=2C =0A= > =0A= > Jake =0A= > =0A= > On Fri=2C Mar 1=2C 2013 at 8:55 PM=2C Andriy Kornatskyy =0A= > > wrote: = =0A= > =0A= > The following benchmarks are related to: =0A= > =0A= > a) python web frameworks =0A= > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/09/python-fastest-web-framework.html =0A= > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-routing-benchmark.html =0A= > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-reverse-urls-benchmark.htm= l =0A= > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-caching-benchmark.html =0A= > =0A= > b) template engines =0A= > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-templates-benchmark.html =0A= > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/07/python-fastest-template.html =0A= > =0A= > With source code: =0A= > https://bitbucket.org/akorn/helloworld =0A= > =0A= > Thanks. =0A= > =0A= > Andriy Kornatskyy =0A= > =0A= > =0A= > ________________________________ =0A= > > Date: Fri=2C 1 Mar 2013 09:25:43 +0000 =0A= > > Subject: Re: Twisted or Tornado? =0A= > > From: svenito@gmail.com =0A= > > To: jake.angulo@gmail.com =0A= > > CC: python-list@python.org =0A= > > =0A= > > Although these articles are a _little_ old they are probably useful to = =0A= > > help you decide which solution is most suitable for you in terms of =0A= > > performance =0A= > > =0A= > > http://nichol.as/benchmark-of-python-web-servers =0A= > > http://nichol.as/asynchronous-servers-in-python =0A= > > =0A= > > I would also be interested if any one on this list has any idea if the = =0A= > > results above would be any different these days or whether the =0A= > > benchmarks are still fairly representative. =0A= > > =0A= > > =0A= > > On 1 March 2013 00:28=2C Jake Angulo =0A= > > =0A= > >> =0A= > wrote: =0A= > > I have to say it first: I am not trolling :P =0A= > > =0A= > > Im working on a server project (with IOS client) and would like to =0A= > > create a custom=2C lean and mean server - real Quick! =0A= > > =0A= > > My requirements for this framework in descending order: =0A= > > 1) Easy to use API =0A= > > 2) Widely available documentation / Examples / Community contributions = =0A= > > 3) Feature-wise - kinda most that you commonly need is there =0A= > > =0A= > > Your opinions will be valuable=2C if possible cite examples or URL =0A= > > references=2C Pls! =0A= > > =0A= > > I prefer opinion from those who have programmed real projects in it - = =0A= > > not just read some blog or Slashdot :P =0A= > > -- =0A= > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list =0A= > > =0A= > > =0A= > > =0A= > > -- =0A= > > ./Sven =0A= > > =0A= > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list =0A= > =0A= > =