Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'zero.': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'zero,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'say,': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'right.': 0.27; 'ray': 0.29; 'bill': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'languages': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; "didn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'claim': 0.61; 'provide': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'natural': 0.67; 'william': 0.79; 'citation': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:20:42 +0100 References: <86fa425b-d660-45ba-b0f7-3beebdec8e14@googlegroups.com> <55EE9EEC.1060907@rece.vub.ac.be> <55ef0514$0$1655$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55efa62d$0$1653$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55f06ae1$0$1650$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3435A80B-14B9-4A7C-99D5-06D898297839@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.66.69 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <3435A80B-14B9-4A7C-99D5-06D898297839@mac.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441826467 news.xs4all.nl 23751 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59017 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96212 On 09/09/2015 18:59, William Ray Wing wrote: > >> On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> > > [byte] > >> >> I think my favourite is the guy who claims that the reason natural languages >> all count from 1 is because the Romans failed to invent zero. (What about >> languages that didn't derive from Latin, say, Chinese?) > > Right. Note that the Arabs, who DID invent zero, still count from one. > > Bill > Would you please provide a citation to support your claim as this http://www.livescience.com/27853-who-invented-zero.html disagrees. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence