Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'string': 0.09; 'ascii': 0.09; 'bytes.': 0.09; 'subject:design': 0.09; '16-bit': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'oddity': 0.16; 'subject:Language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'bytes': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'sep': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'no,': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'similar': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'turn': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; '12,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'series': 0.66; 'apart': 0.72; '"most': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9vakWcppUQqpVKHKeZG0vm1eMqoKI93XFIpTB60k32o=; b=ii5sy+Bt9sOl1YkVVjBJ5MsRrIszCslH0lUXp8yweLOoBoxe6/ym/1clxZMZ96cygQ yh4E1lR3+dxt/rNnujIKuaO9fQ1nPaZ6TeAqzoCR/+qzVW+OYC+vOjbXiVA2gnDgpgkX abqRdzHmY8S7OqLIwsgIwRH0M1mFKYxdMhYQOHp7ImJ3zsAXjiug3Z5Uy9rEbCbSjR2D xca1UZoGEp3JFgJm1ro92M2DxOc4mvZlAPj9TatsPjaTF2IQm2qA1gZOKwGIBMGGKcqW OpQajaiccyI3U3WXYD/zwHOd/TM9E8AE7ju7U2d+o6NB3BScD06gEqPNhd6l15EieSS5 7dvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.47.193 with SMTP id ut1mr3895526vcb.8.1378946415851; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <522eb795$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7wbo412m02.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <7w38pb2ble.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:40:15 +1000 Subject: Re: Language design From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1378946418 news.xs4all.nl 15924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50092 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54018 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Mark Janssen wrote: >> Unicode is not 16-bit any more than ASCII is 8-bit. And you used the >> word "encod[e]", which is the standard way to turn Unicode into bytes >> anyway. No, a Unicode string is a series of codepoints - it's most >> similar to a list of ints than to a stream of bytes. > > Okay, now you're in blah, blah land. Eh? Apart from the grammatical oddity (artifact of editing - should be "more similar" not "most similar"), I don't see anything wrong in what I said there. ChrisA