Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'padding': 0.07; 'received:openend.se': 0.09; 'received:theraft.openend.se': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'assume': 0.11; '>on': 0.16; 'cc:addr:lac': 0.16; 'cc:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:addr:lac': 0.16; 'from:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'mean,': 0.16; 'means.': 0.16; 'message-id:@fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'received:89.233': 0.16; 'received:89.233.217': 0.16; 'received:89.233.217.133': 0.16; 'received:fido': 0.16; 'received:fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.21; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'meant': 0.22; '2015': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'received:se': 0.29; 'subject: [': 0.29; 'cc:no real name:2**1': 0.29; 'too.': 0.30; 'run': 0.32; "i'll": 0.34; 'that,': 0.34; 'wrong': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'received:89': 0.80; '+1000,': 0.84 To: "Steven D'Aprano" cc: python-list@python.org, lac@openend.se From: Laura Creighton Subject: Re: Zero [was Re: What is considered an "advanced" topic in Python?] In-Reply-To: Message from "Steven D'Aprano" of "Mon, 01 Jun 2015 22:07:41 +1000." <556c4b0e$0$13003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <28cec7df-0f51-4098-b027-72e913a9b656@googlegroups.com> <1433128706.32838.283108057.2C4C8613@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87d21fahyi.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net><556c4b0e$0$13003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <23476.1433163129.1@fido> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:52:09 +0200 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (theraft.openend.se [89.233.217.130]); Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:52:14 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1433163148 news.xs4all.nl 2825 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:32890 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91665 In a message of Mon, 01 Jun 2015 22:07:41 +1000, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 07:36 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> However, I constantly run into engineers who don't understand what >> zero means. > >Okay, I'll bite. > >What does zero mean, and how do engineers misunderstand it? > > > >-- >Steven I assume he meant 0 padding for fast fourier transforms, but I could be wrong about that, too. Laura