Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'string': 0.09; 'ascii': 0.09; 'bytes.': 0.09; 'subject:design': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '16-bit': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'subject:Language': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'bytes': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'no,': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'similar': 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'most': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'series': 0.66 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=I5jx99WKSNAQM7bs/Wilpp0b/ReLPN0ZVKckOXPdnpQ=; b=aSA270lIQXrf3LmTgDCTYX6WW9F34eTrD9XQo1CJe+pHg3bv6ULUbR0Hbwj6pRYlzO THjtz6j1wgeOsKh12BfTWg7phaXTBLzC6SCejroN1EAU5KXPh8WrZfKBYyl4mJ+NjMP2 QWB1SXSQxrA2uMMLBULnTrBXNkEOvSDWsmKiebeqM/9AUGdmswdL9263OeqHudLdrFRj 2hOGtGixRCRh4rGQ0TIqlvCWiIc8r1Q9LCbXuMtgPi0kCRCLT0OM31fzr/d9OoEmxuCq +R+e5kDv3yND3ONgsUc4gjpzlAi6CXnFGHhOeYo0RQ42IQWHtFRatn9xhKesrNYAVZvn AT2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.107.167 with SMTP id hd7mr3484819wib.13.1378946236148; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:37:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <522eb795$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7wbo412m02.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <7w38pb2ble.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:37:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Language design From: Mark Janssen To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 8 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1378946243 news.xs4all.nl 15873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47342 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54017 > Unicode is not 16-bit any more than ASCII is 8-bit. And you used the > word "encod[e]", which is the standard way to turn Unicode into bytes > anyway. No, a Unicode string is a series of codepoints - it's most > similar to a list of ints than to a stream of bytes. Okay, now you're in blah, blah land. --mark