Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'argument': 0.05; 'variables': 0.07; 'means,': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'janssen': 0.16; 'relates': 0.16; 'scope.': 0.16; 'subject:"]': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "aren't": 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'references': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'function': 0.29; 'specifically': 0.29; 'rest': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'about.': 0.31; 'not.': 0.33; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'c++': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'system,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'strictly': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'specialized': 0.65; 'talking': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'theoretical': 0.74; '11:44': 0.84; 'commenting': 0.84; 'difference.': 0.84; 'luck': 0.93; 'washington': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=55SR59TBpxsucsz19AZC4XTcZDA53hapHn75b2ubMn4=; b=aUUWLrPYhH1jOV9VJFczT2TOpeGCz8ecmHtYGdCCyG5197pEAfNW3H6eRNhNS/Nuz9 MAyYHdmQa6CvHGBMq0y0m7TTU0T/2dKsq96t30Qr9Pv/DYaBNPyC2MAtaUYhBGnJLR0D 9VvLD81sNzXx2XoKBcwEBzd9kXo5HyAzBwtLtF/mwHKm6C8W5uqGyi+p8M3B/wSwck48 2/tSNLoQ8awwQCdEVCzM1VbaT9EqFrBvZeY7KzMK0AdBnvhTQw4aujU50fm6b8oWkUWK e9T44IGDu1b/qcSs7WbTlOlxpOh9V0uXjjnQOIkYIRRsnA6VKIkjAxDE4rEDmUxCtPay AaJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.24.225 with SMTP id x1mr3113869wjf.62.1370581293409; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:01:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <687dea63-84da-4c45-9366-cb5a10665d1f@googlegroups.com> <51ad7daf$0$11118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <31ca14e1-973d-44e6-886c-011a55755d76@googlegroups.com> <96cd7a31-40ce-4e51-9489-446b7f002a0e@googlegroups.com> <51afec46$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b0565d$0$11118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <8275844b-ac41-46ab-a49a-9b796f31ebcf@ks18g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:01:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"] From: Mark Janssen To: alex23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370581302 news.xs4all.nl 15909 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44861 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47307 On 6/6/13, alex23 wrote: > On Jun 7, 11:44 am, Mark Janssen wrote: >> > Bulshytt. If you have no idea what polymorphism is, you shouldn't even >> > be participating in this conversation. >> >> I am aware of what it means, but Python doesn't really have it > > You really need to stop commenting when you clearly have no > understanding of what you're talking about. "Clearly", okay. You've added a wee bit of constructive argument *if* you're considered reputable to the rest of the list; however, "polymorophism", should really only be considered "true" when specifically in a "functional enclosure". C++ has this, through it's type system, more strictly when there is no references to variables outside the function scope. Python does not. But this all relates to theoretical ObjectArchitecture and ModelsOfComputation that aren't well-understood outside a few specialized folks. Good luck trying to work through the chaff, if you don't want to know the difference. -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington