Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'raised': 0.07; 'try:': 0.07; 'errors,': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; 'received:184.172': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'tuple': 0.09; 'cases': 0.15; 'both.': 0.16; 'enough.': 0.16; 'indexerror:': 0.16; 'keyerror': 0.16; 'mapping,': 0.16; 'nameerror': 0.16; 'pair,': 0.16; 'popping': 0.16; 'received:69.93': 0.16; 'received:72.11': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125.166': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'true:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'mechanism': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; '31,': 0.22; 'stick': 0.22; "i'd": 0.22; 'example': 0.23; 'pass': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'possibly': 0.27; 'replace': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'class': 0.29; 'usually': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'done': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'sequence': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'continue': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'except': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'url:library': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'url:docs': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'is.': 0.62; 'decided': 0.65; 'book.': 0.65; 'jul': 0.65; 'subject:skip:A 10': 0.75; 'received:gateway14.websitewelcome.com': 0.91 Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:53:40 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: NameError vs AttributeError References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.10.136]) [72.11.125.166]:3238 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343838883 news.xs4all.nl 6972 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59852 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26369 Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/31/2012 4:49 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >>> Another example: KeyError and IndexError are both subscript errors, >>> but there is no SubscriptError superclass, even though both work >>> thru the same mechanism -- __getitem__. The reason is that there is >>> no need for one. In 'x[y]', x is usually intented to be either a >>> sequence or mapping, but not possibly both. In the rare cases when >>> one wants to catch both errors, one can easily enough. To continue >>> the example above, popping an empty list and empty set produce >>> IndexError and KeyError respectively: >>> >>> try: >>> while True: >>> process(pop()) >>> except (KeyError, IndexError): >>> pass # empty collection means we are done >>> >> There is a base type for KeyError and IndexError: LookupError. >> >> http://docs.python.org/library/exceptions.html#exception-hierarchy > > Oh, so there is. Added in 1.5 strictly as a never-directly-raised base > class for the above pair, now also directly raised in codecs.lookup. I > have not decided if I want to replace the tuple in the code in my book. I think I'd stick with the tuple -- LookupError could just as easily encompass NameError and AttributeError.