Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.04; 'memory.': 0.05; 'correct.': 0.07; '(although': 0.09; 'linux/unix': 0.09; 'sure)': 0.09; '*and': 0.16; 'call)': 0.16; 'mapped': 0.16; 'pipes': 0.16; 'resource,': 0.16; 'segfault': 0.16; 'segment': 0.16; 'sense,': 0.16; 'up*': 0.16; 'working.': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'memory': 0.18; 'somebody': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'implemented': 0.27; 'parent': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'running': 0.32; 'subject:data': 0.33; 'surely': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'process,': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'created': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'child': 0.36; 'why': 0.37; 'communicate': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'more': 0.63; 'received:204': 0.72; '100%': 0.76; 'child,': 0.84; 'killed': 0.91 Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:32:04 +0200 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Pass data to a subprocess References: <5017EFB0.6080608@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343831530 news.xs4all.nl 6913 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52355 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26362 >>> things get more tricky, because I can't use queues and pipes to >>> communicate with a running process that it's noit my child, correct? >>> >> Yes, I think that is correct. > I don't understand why detaching a child process on Linux/Unix would > make IPC stop working. Can somebody explain? > It is implemented with shared memory. I think (although I'm not 100% sure) that shared memory is created *and freed up* (shm_unlink() system call) by the parent process. It makes sense, because the child processes will surely die with the parent. If you detach a child process, then it won't be killed with its original parent. But the shared memory will be freed by the original parent process anyway. I suspect that the child that has mapped that shared memory segment will try to access a freed up resource, do a segfault or something similar.