Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'zero.': 0.09; 'received:10.0.1.5': 0.16; 'received:mac.com': 0.16; 'zero,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'received:10.0.1': 0.18; 'say,': 0.18; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'right.': 0.27; 'received:17': 0.27; 'bill': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'languages': 0.34; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; "didn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'header :MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'natural': 0.67; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2015-09-09_09:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=2.77555756156289e-16 compositescore=0.431164068424435 phishscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 rbsscore=0.431164068424435 recipient_to_sender_totalscore=0 spamscore=0 urlsuspectscore=0.431164068424435 adultscore=0 kscore.compositescore=0 circleOfTrustscore=0 suspectscore=5 recipient_domain_to_sender_totalscore=0 bulkscore=0 recipient_domain_to_sender_domain_totalscore=0 recipient_to_sender_domain_totalscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1509090257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. From: William Ray Wing In-reply-to: <55f06ae1$0$1650$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 13:59:53 -0400 Cc: steve@pearwood.info, "William R. Wing" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <86fa425b-d660-45ba-b0f7-3beebdec8e14@googlegroups.com> <55EE9EEC.1060907@rece.vub.ac.be> <55ef0514$0$1655$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55efa62d$0$1653$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55f06ae1$0$1650$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> To: python-list@python.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441825219 news.xs4all.nl 23802 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37023 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96207 > On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Steven D'Aprano = wrote: >=20 >=20 [byte] >=20 > I think my favourite is the guy who claims that the reason natural = languages > all count from 1 is because the Romans failed to invent zero. (What = about > languages that didn't derive from Latin, say, Chinese?) Right. Note that the Arabs, who DID invent zero, still count from one. Bill