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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 02:59:12 +1000
Subject: Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"]
From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Rick Johnson
<rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:15:57 AM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> [...]
>> I cannot name a single modern programming language that does NOT have
>> some kind of implicit boolification.
>
> Congrats: Again you join the ranks of most children who make excuses for their foolish actions along the lines of:
>
>  "Hey, they did it first!"
>
> Well, the lemmings get what they deserve i suppose.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/E/ELIZA-effect.html

ChrisA