Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'plenty': 0.03; 'ubuntu': 0.04; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'throw': 0.09; 'weak': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'broken': 0.12; 'bash,': 0.16; 'debian,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'figure': 0.20; 'compared': 0.21; 'received:209.85.213.46': 0.23; 'received:mail- yw0-f46.google.com': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.23; 'command': 0.24; 'extent': 0.24; 'preferred': 0.25; 'windows': 0.26; 'worked': 0.26; 'idle': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'ran': 0.30; 'subject:same': 0.30; 'installed': 0.30; 'nov': 0.31; 'version': 0.31; 'pretty': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'fault': 0.34; 'things': 0.35; 'trouble': 0.35; 'stopped': 0.35; 'fri,': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'several': 0.38; 'run': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'went': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; "it's": 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'under': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'being': 0.40; '2011': 0.62; 'july': 0.63; 'grab': 0.65; 'months.': 0.73; '2011.': 0.89 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WUdr6FHVdOsExwAI3Q4TltJnWRe2mvNWQwK964JFn2Q=; b=pBHAiO7QQMhgzY0JyDx5h6xf3baDQmeMXqlAF0uXw6gfRqUe/n89YBVlZ2oKOAGR2n 7hDGmpIX8esnGlQRBJOfGIQQXIr6mQqghB2ApnnZYe+3GKKxyqc9aOT/hCGU0yvalNTw XvxEcRc9+bvmClcugtWi1dqWK0++jBE2dbGyo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:43:05 +1100 Subject: Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7 From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1321562594 news.xs4all.nl 6869 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33901 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:15832 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:31 AM, W. eWatson wrote: > I installed it [Windows 7] about April 2010, and it worked for months. I then stopped > using it until around July 2011. It no longer worked in the IDLE sense. > Microsoft have broken things in many Windowses, and it's often hard to figure out whether the fault is with the Windows version or with the application. MS several times went to ridiculous effort to try to ensure that broken programs that ran under version X would still run under version Y, to the extent of being bug-for-bug compatible. If you're having issues, grab a spare computer, throw Linux on it (I recommend Ubuntu or Debian, others will have other preferred distros), and see if the issues remain. Or if you're having trouble with the GUI, try things from the command line (Windows's command interpreter is pretty weak compared to bash, but it's plenty powerful enough). ChrisA