Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Torrie Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: How much sanity checking is required for function inputs? Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:58:09 -0600 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5713E52D.3060407@icloud.com> <1461131475.4042173.584042297.03DAB00E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57171D23.40709@stoneleaf.us> <1461133057.4046578.584060569.2DD34821@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57185E88.30201@yahoo.com> <57197FC3.4030701@icloud.com> <1461291613.433097.586174185.01BB7E37@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57199BA5.4000703@icloud.com> <1461302724.477236.586265777.181ACCA0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <571C21A3.5090507@icloud.com> <571C302C.2010800@icloud.com> <571C3B5C.8030403@gmail.com> <571C4072.1000005@icloud.com> <571C4451.2060905@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de UMo067BHJ+HN3PFoI+pZuAR9xDtqZ8v94huUcxADANmw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'imply': 0.07; 'scripts': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.09; 'c/c++': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'language,': 0.11; 'instead.': 0.15; 'java,': 0.15; 'benefit.': 0.16; 'c/c++.': 0.16; 'employers': 0.16; 'flavors': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'shop.': 0.16; 'subject:required': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'resolved': 0.18; 'programmer': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'student': 0.20; 'windows': 0.20; 'java': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'helpful': 0.27; 'assembly': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'classes': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'especially': 0.32; 'class': 0.33; 'hopefully': 0.33; 'though.': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'advice': 0.35; 'solving': 0.35; 'community': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'visual': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'agree': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'wanted': 0.37; 'mean': 0.38; 'offered': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'desk': 0.61; "you'll": 0.61; 'hope': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'strictly': 0.64; 'it!': 0.64; 'college': 0.67; 'prohibited': 0.70; 'home.': 0.75; 'discovered': 0.83; 'experience!': 0.84; 'glad': 0.87; 'afford': 0.91; 'subject:much': 0.91; 'taught': 0.97 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 In-Reply-To: <571C4072.1000005@icloud.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <571C4451.2060905@gmail.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5713E52D.3060407@icloud.com> <1461131475.4042173.584042297.03DAB00E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57171D23.40709@stoneleaf.us> <1461133057.4046578.584060569.2DD34821@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57185E88.30201@yahoo.com> <57197FC3.4030701@icloud.com> <1461291613.433097.586174185.01BB7E37@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57199BA5.4000703@icloud.com> <1461302724.477236.586265777.181ACCA0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <571C21A3.5090507@icloud.com> <571C302C.2010800@icloud.com> <571C3B5C.8030403@gmail.com> <571C4072.1000005@icloud.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107535 On 04/23/2016 09:41 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote: > I never wanted to learn Java in the first place. My community college > couldn't afford to renew the Microsoft site license, which local > employers required to learn C/C++ in MS Visual Studio, and all flavors > of Java got taught for the programming classes instead. I wanted to > learn C/C++. I even wanted to learn assembly language, but I was the > only student who showed up for the class and it got cancelled. > > Of course, it probably doesn't help that I got a job in help desk > support after I graduated with A.S. degree in Java and never programmed > professionally. Thinking like a programmer helped me resolved many IT > problems over the last 12 years. My current job in computer security > requires tinkering with PowerShell scripts as Python is strictly > prohibited in this Windows shop. I have made Python my main programming > language at home. I don't mean to imply that I'm criticizing you for your Java experience! I am critical of Java, though. I'm very glad you've discovered Python and I hope you'll continue to have fun with it. I hope you'll take the advice offered by the others on this thread in stride and hopefully we'll all learn and benefit. I completely agree with you that learning to think like a programmer is so helpful in solving all kinds of problems, especially in IT!