Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Python keyword args can be any string Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:58:41 +1100 Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <56c559c2$0$2916$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <56c65be5$0$1590$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de LCSHVMUW2SRUJxWeQxeK4Q28A9a+G65oWCXnFADkTmAw== Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZN4Y8orIKDhD43VaCmjWzoUXXRo= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'before.': 0.09; 'kwargs': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'typeerror:': 0.09; 'unexpected': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'def': 0.13; 'argument': 0.15; 'skip:f 30': 0.15; '"-"': 0.16; '(name,': 0.16; 'exposes': 0.16; 'imo.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'skip:{ 20': 0.18; 'test.': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'all,': 0.20; 'student': 0.20; '"",': 0.22; 'arguments': 0.22; 'mind.': 0.22; 'names.': 0.22; 'pass': 0.22; 'seems': 0.23; 'passing': 0.23; 'specified': 0.23; '(most': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'function': 0.28; '**kwargs):': 0.29; '13,': 0.29; 'value)': 0.29; 'another': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'traceback': 0.33; 'know.': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'should': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'keyword': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'wanted': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'test': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'provide': 0.61; 'improved': 0.63; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.70; '8bit%:40': 0.72; '8bit%:43': 0.72; 'asap': 0.72; '_o__)': 0.84; 'mencken': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:any': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x94henry': 0.84; 'colleague': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21rc2 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103159 Steven D'Aprano writes: > A work colleague wanted to pass an argument starting with "-" to a > function. > > Apparently he didn't have a specific argument in mind. He just wanted > to test the function to breaking point by passing invalid argument > names. That seems a reasonable test. >>> kwargs = { ... 'spam': 13, ... 'eggs': 17, ... '-beans': 11, ... } >>> foo(**kwargs) # Should this fail? It exposes a design smell; by capturing ‘**kwargs’, a function has deiberately not specified which keyword arguments it will accept. >>> def foo_captures_kwargs(*args, **kwargs): ... for (name, value) in kwargs.items(): ... print("Got argument {name}={value!r}".format( ... name=name, value=value)) ... >>> foo_captures_kwargs(**kwargs) Got argument eggs=17 Got argument spam=13 Got argument -beans=11 Still not a bug in Python IMO. It may be a bug in the program; the design of the function doesn't provide any way to know. Perhaps the design can be improved by not using ‘**kwargs’ at all, and instead using a specific set of keyword-only arguments. >>> def foo_names_every_argument(*, spam="Lorem", eggs="ipsum"): ... print("Got argument {name}={value!r}".format( ... name='spam', value=spam)) ... print("Got argument {name}={value!r}".format( ... name='eggs', value=eggs)) ... >>> foo_names_every_argument(**kwargs) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError: foo_names_every_argument() got an unexpected keyword argument '-beans' This is IMO another good reason to migrate ASAP to Python 3; better design is easier that before. -- \ “Judge: A law student who marks his own papers.” —Henry L. | `\ Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney