Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: William Ray Wing Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:49:48 -0500 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <5695fd0e$0$11119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <0529e7d6-0de1-4e38-9a19-2b5ed1ecc39f@googlegroups.com> <5696e77e$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> <36c2dbd5-e8e4-4e56-8c4e-ffb2da51875f@googlegroups.com> <46334134-1fd1-493a-9c8a-6f14956cf60a@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de +wWC6IIpjAoksjQXArjtWQalnAWBdSy5OL4I9BSmXcuQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'essentially': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'column': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.11; '1:09': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'doesn\xe2\x80\x99t': 0.16; 'footnote': 0.16; 'mismatch': 0.16; 'received:10.0.1.5': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:writing': 0.16; 'unfair': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'worse.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'else,': 0.18; 'received:10.0.1': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'prevent': 0.20; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'fit': 0.23; '(or': 0.23; 'skip:m 30': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'product.': 0.27; 'received:17': 0.27; 'ray': 0.29; 'code:': 0.29; 'typically': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; '15,': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; 'bill': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'date.': 0.33; 'suit': 0.33; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'add': 0.34; 'company:': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'turn': 0.37; 'stuff': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'company': 0.60; 'header :MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'press': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'six': 0.65; 'legal': 0.66; 'buying': 0.67; 'william': 0.79; 'bernardo': 0.84; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'subject:Stop': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cwe': 0.84; 'source?': 0.91 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-01-15_07:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1601150312 In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101775 > On Jan 15, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Bernardo Sulzbach = wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:02 PM, William Ray Wing wrote: >>=20 >> What Micro$oft was actually sued for was worse. They would approach = a small company: =E2=80=9CWe like your product/technology, we think we = are interested in buying you out, but we want to see your code to be = sure it is modular/well-documented/etc.=E2=80=9D Then, after looking = over the code: =E2=80=9CWell, it actually doesn=E2=80=99t fit our plans. = Sorry.=E2=80=9D Six months or so later, essentially identical stuff = would turn up in a Micro$soft product. >>=20 >=20 > More out of curiosity than anything else, do you have a source? >=20 > --=20 > Bernardo Sulzbach > --=20 > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list It came out of a Cringely column several years ago, I don=E2=80=99t = remember the date. What I do remember (and failed to add to my note = before) was that Micro$soft counted on the mismatch in legal department = sizes to pretty much prevent any one small company from suing (or = bankrupted them if they tried). It was typically a footnote in the = press stories about the government suit and another bullet point in the = unfair competition/tactics alleged. Bill