Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'debug': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'macros': 0.09; 'modules.': 0.09; 'subject:still': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'extension': 0.13; '[1].': 0.16; 'ides': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'subject:need': 0.17; 'x-mailer:microsoft outlook express 6.00.2900.5931': 0.22; 'programming': 0.23; '[1]': 0.27; 'coding': 0.27; 'buffers': 0.29; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'visual': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'uses': 0.37; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'your': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'great': 0.64; 'subject:good': 0.84 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response From: Gisle Vanem To: python-list@python.org References: <50e25c10$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50E32E58.3000102@lightbird.net> <50E4A7A2.4010104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: New to python, do I need an IDE or is vim still good enough? Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 10:59:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1357207181 news.xs4all.nl 6907 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38581 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:36047 "Wayne Werner" wrote: > Yep. That's how I feel. I had used ViEmu in Visual Studio for coding in .NET at > work - but I found that the buffers & macros were more powerful. So now I do > most of my programming in Vim, and only head to VS if I need autocomplete or > some of it's auto-generation tools. Learning X different IDEs for different languages and uses can be confusing. So if you use Visual-Studio a lot there is Python Tools for VS [1]. A great but kinda slow extension to VS. Sticking to VS is also useful if one does Swig and need to debug your crashing .pyd modules. [1] http://pytools.codeplex.com/ --gv