Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'suppose': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'hierarchical': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'message-id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'necessity.': 0.16; 'nodes': 0.16; 'peters': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'structure.': 0.16; 'unstructured': 0.16; 'items.': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'tim': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'equivalent': 0.20; 'import': 0.21; 'nearly': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'learn,': 0.29; 'parent': 0.29; 'prints': 0.29; 'says': 0.33; 'rid': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'along': 0.35; 'so,': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; 'child': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'multiplying': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'subject:better': 0.84; 'why?': 0.84; 'zen': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Why 'Flat is better than nested' Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:04:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343768702 news.xs4all.nl 6899 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26327 >>> import this prints 'The Zen of Python', a poem by Tim Peters that consists of python proverbs such as "Flat is better than nested." (Others things being equal) why? Because it is a restatement of the principle of parsimony, of not multiplying entities without necessity. Suppose we have a unstructured collection of N items. Organizer comes along and says 'Let there be structure. Let us organize the items as leaf nodes in a hierarchical tree' (which is equivalent to nesting). To do so, we can add as many as N-1 new non-leaf nodes and as many as (about) 2*N - log2(N) parent child relationships. In other words, nearly quadruple the number of entities to learn, discuss, and remember. Well, there had better be a good necessity to do so ;-). And, of course, once new entities *are* conjured up, it is hard to get rid of them. -- Terry Jan Reedy