Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; '(at': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'cpython': 0.05; 'memory.': 0.05; 'subject:ANN': 0.07; 'backwards': 0.09; 'broke': 0.09; 'leaks': 0.09; 'subject:library': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'extensions': 0.13; '(like': 0.15; 'slightly': 0.15; '6.0': 0.16; 'add-ons': 0.16; 'bugs,': 0.16; 'out)': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'sucked': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'memory': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'windows': 0.19; 'bit': 0.21; '4.0': 0.22; "i've": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'received:209.85.213.174': 0.29; 'received:mail- yx0-f174.google.com': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'subject: [': 0.29; 'point': 0.31; 'generally': 0.32; 'certain': 0.33; 'interface,': 0.33; 'subject:Simple': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'version': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'step': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'chance': 0.61; 'skip:6 10': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'risk': 0.66; 'introduce': 0.80; '7.0,': 0.84; 'dust': 0.84; 'forward.': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9S301/LgWq+eWCY8NU53WOB2w239Aeiw6PlJwhcxunM=; b=D+G8We+u3kNnVlkdhHOGyMv/YbVC+ye/v/96pBAjuWI9/KQQyfhzMhqmYgilxbjPKy eKefnzy9+l+QHznTpFhSgh5ZA6MvqnBaEbywIuYnHIrHxel7ZkRCepixPMuAaGq9+IHz //lmrK7CDKj3zKYLVqU7m7M0YR94IAbQ5UKGE1Up5qFAyCng8IzKV2/W1b1FhCANh/Tj qunZA12jQ+P3urCMqg9AfXfZaOLGBvuIaqT/LCJQxMZ1oISoJqMSRC+AOvvTo0MDEBdn q6uq9hn1NlGCeTiXFbWLYivflC16fJscYEVubvbLSVAyn5x11555HRBYnRobM3ghufl7 HS7A== Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:59:17 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comp.lang.python" Subject: Firefox 3.6 [OT] (was: Re: [ANN] pyknon: Simple Python library to generate music in a hacker friendly way.) References: <31A3F10D-C2A8-417E-8501-7E7364315DDD@pedrokroger.net> <5016D373.1090809@stoneleaf.us> <8A8834DA-E80E-434A-902D-25A0AA96B2E9@pedrokroger.net> <5016D94A.2020703@stoneleaf.us> <50174218$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <50174218$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343743178 news.xs4all.nl 6916 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58911 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26311 On 7/30/2012 9:25 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I don't. But in my experience, the risk of security breaches is *much* > less than the chance that the new version will break functionality, > introduce bugs, have a worse user interface, and generally be a step > backwards rather than forward. 4.0 sucked. It had a radically new UI and it broke heaps of add-ons and it leaked memory. 5.0 was slightly better, but still sucked because it still leaked memory. 6.0 didn't suck so much because the memory leaks were taken care of, and by this point there were extensions to deal with certain issues (like not having a place for status bar icons). By 7.0, there weren't really any more problems. By no means was the process painless, but I've found the new UI to be a bit better than the old one (at this point - not when 4.0 came out) now that the dust has settled. -- CPython 3.3.0b1 | Windows NT 6.1.7601.17803