Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'variables': 0.07; 'objects,': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'variables.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'have).': 0.16; 'subject:"]': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'either.': 0.24; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; '(which': 0.31; 'minor': 0.31; 'ones.': 0.31; 'allows': 0.31; 'critical': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'comment': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'shows': 0.36; 'clear': 0.37; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'major': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'then,': 0.60; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'sound': 0.68; 'differences': 0.93; 'rick': 0.93 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:18:13 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120421 Thunderbird/10.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"] References: <687dea63-84da-4c45-9366-cb5a10665d1f@googlegroups.com> <51ab95d5$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51ad7daf$0$11118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370474311 news.xs4all.nl 16002 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43844 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47158 On 06/05/2013 12:11 AM, Russ P. wrote: > But then, what would you expect of a language that allows you to > write > > x = 1 > x = "Hello" > > It's all loosey goosey -- which is fine for many applications but > certainly not for critical ones. This comment shows me that you don't understand the difference between names, objects, and variables. May sound like a minor quibble, but there're actually major differences between binding names to objects (which is what python does) and variables (which is what languages like C have). It's very clear Rick does not have an understanding of this either.