Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.073 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'sufficient': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'ugly': 0.07; 'explanation': 0.09; 'subject:Source': 0.09; 'systems.': 0.12; 'question.': 0.14; 'sections': 0.14; 'barrier': 0.16; 'figure,': 0.16; 'ha!': 0.16; 'influential': 0.16; 'mythical': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'stupidity': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'threatened': 0.16; 'user?': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.18; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.22; 'either.': 0.24; 'received:65.55.116': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; '>': 0.26; 'url:edu': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'programming.': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'alone': 0.33; 'date:': 0.34; 'computing': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'limitations': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'skip:- 20': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'subject:': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'greatest': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'identify': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 're:': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'effectively': 0.66; 'world': 0.66; 'direct': 0.67; 'fact,': 0.69; 'money': 0.72; 'endowed': 0.84; 'idiot': 0.84; 'isn\x92t': 0.84; 'literature': 0.84; '\x93the': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-TMN: [1FM/7G4D0qTpjYQQGDfdcG6pIavprbbQ] X-Originating-Email: [carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11b2d4e8-c552-48db-886b-1b0f5a54750d_" From: Carlos Nepomuceno To: "python-list@python.org" Subject: RE: Source code to identify user through browser? Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 01:07:07 +0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <53e74d68-7bd0-4ee6-bb6c-f3f7724c9342@qz2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> References: , , <53e74d68-7bd0-4ee6-bb6c-f3f7724c9342@qz2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2013 22:07:07.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[050589B0:01CE6239] X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 96 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370470030 news.xs4all.nl 15927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55142 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47154 --_11b2d4e8-c552-48db-886b-1b0f5a54750d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Wed=2C 5 Jun 2013 08:18:56 -0700 > Subject: Re: Source code to identify user through browser? > From: rustompmody@gmail.com [...] > > What do you mean by user? >=20 > Ha! Nice question. Not in direct answer but here's E.W Dijkstra > defining 'user': >=20 > [from http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD618.html > ] > ---------------------------- > The computer =93user=94 isn=92t a real person of flesh and blood=2C with > passions and brains. No=2C he is a mythical figure=2C and not a very > pleasant one either. A kind of mongrel with money but without taste=2C > an ugly caricature that is very uninspiring to work for. He is=2C as a > matter of fact=2C such an uninspiring idiot that his stupidity alone is > a sufficient explanation for the ugliness of most computer systems. > And oh! Is he uneducated! That is perhaps his most depressing > characteristic. He is equally education-resistant as another equally > mythical bore=2C =93the average programmer=94=2C whose solid stupidity is= the > greatest barrier to progress in programming. It is a sad thought that > large sections of computing science are effectively paralyzed by the > narrow-mindedness and other grotesque limitations with which a poor > literature has endowed these influential mythical figures. (Computing > science is not unique in inventing such paralyzing caricatures: > universities all over the world are threatened by the invention of > =93the average student=94=2C scientific publishing is severely hampered b= y > the invention of =93the innocent reader=94 and even =93the poor reader=94= !) Didn't know he was such a humorist! lol Although I prefer when he's serious: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1094.html = --_11b2d4e8-c552-48db-886b-1b0f5a54750d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 5 Jun 2013 0= 8:18:56 -0700
>=3B Subject: Re: Source code to identify user thro= ugh browser?
>=3B From: rustompmody@gmail.com
[...]
>=3B >= =3B What do you mean by user?
>=3B
>=3B Ha! Nice question. Not = in direct answer but here's E.W Dijkstra
>=3B defining 'user':
>= =3B
>=3B [from http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/E= WD618.html
>=3B ]
>=3B ----------------------------
>=3B The= computer =93user=94 isn=92t a real person of flesh and blood=2C with
&g= t=3B passions and brains. No=2C he is a mythical figure=2C and not a very>=3B pleasant one either. A kind of mongrel with money but without tast= e=2C
>=3B an ugly caricature that is very uninspiring to work for. He = is=2C as a
>=3B matter of fact=2C such an uninspiring idiot that his s= tupidity alone is
>=3B a sufficient explanation for the ugliness of mo= st computer systems.
>=3B And oh! Is he uneducated! That is perhaps hi= s most depressing
>=3B characteristic. He is equally education-resista= nt as another equally
>=3B mythical bore=2C =93the average programmer= =94=2C whose solid stupidity is the
>=3B greatest barrier to progress = in programming. It is a sad thought that
>=3B large sections of comput= ing science are effectively paralyzed by the
>=3B narrow-mindedness an= d other grotesque limitations with which a poor
>=3B literature has en= dowed these influential mythical figures. (Computing
>=3B science is n= ot unique in inventing such paralyzing caricatures:
>=3B universities = all over the world are threatened by the invention of
>=3B =93the aver= age student=94=2C scientific publishing is severely hampered by
>=3B t= he invention of =93the innocent reader=94 and even =93the poor reader=94!)<= br>
Didn't know he was such a humorist! lol

Although I prefer whe= n he's serious:

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/t= ranscriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1094.html

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