Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!cs.uu.nl!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.116 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.77; '*S*': 0.00; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'beginner': 0.05; 'beginners': 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'did.': 0.16; 'ends,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:Apache': 0.16; 'subject:issue': 0.16; 'subject:run': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; '(you': 0.16; 'hire': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'could': 0.34; 'basic': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'tech': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'so,': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'aside': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'major': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'company': 0.60; 'worry': 0.60; 'matter': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'box,': 0.64; 'stand': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'hired': 0.68; 'business': 0.70; 'discovered': 0.83; 'done;': 0.84; 'hammer': 0.84; 'plays': 0.84; 'safe.': 0.84; 'wipe': 0.84; 'businesses.': 0.93; 'subject:let': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E7opeX0ArUk7Gf29XNqC30CyXMIzdPtLvkp04uXqzo8=; b=EvhC6x5439xi04Irg91A/SebweXejPzHjl2V/H0mcQ4edZ1/ShcAmf+EMWYMKV3oWj GzRx/g516qKveWyyiI5FGic0QyDgTntumxoQ4glkRrypdS1ppPiNuUAPcV6uvEyTlH1O eZHDKCB2ogn4223bl1Q47Wq13gnCdw/qQFuY1DqYtvvS+QawgJQJDT+xCXZAJkmWtqBi lRPg39XSSsNTQN/8WPAPQYU6SUxsULqERg1Ig6Oy+zMOF4u4TXHvgqev844D9qbl92Cw vAfHT4+YrwwClaDSe+uu+Ba6ppllhlKwRO+YUpH7Ivr5R3KhwEhPilbi/LB4i/aO8w8n CmRw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.121.99 with SMTP id lj3mr17542930vdb.52.1370459621493; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:13:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <72903858-b5b4-414f-8ac5-958c436cf8eb@googlegroups.com> References: <20a49aac-3867-481f-96d4-c95a050781ed@googlegroups.com> <592c84d8-2e86-4480-b784-c3ccadc8360d@googlegroups.com> <06fd6c2e-0979-4d61-b75a-6d9df7c1b624@googlegroups.com> <70390d65-5313-46bf-8110-b25f5fc9f76f@googlegroups.com> <8d52505a-7252-419b-8b4f-61e5ee56a78a@googlegroups.com> <2aef9194-ef36-45db-8c77-9510d3f14ebe@googlegroups.com> <8df8a9df-dbb9-4f35-a6a3-b45aa32a848b@googlegroups.com> <1496e27c-7870-48d2-afb0-1bf626e24b5f@googlegroups.com> <83de920f-dea8-49ad-9f6e-e25d3b2d8446@googlegroups.com> <501f3d4e-bbe3-45e8-afce-96cedabe2bef@googlegroups.com> <72903858-b5b4-414f-8ac5-958c436cf8eb@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 05:13:41 +1000 Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370459624 news.xs4all.nl 16008 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36960 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47139 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:58 AM, =CD=E9=EA=FC=EB=E1=EF=F2 =CA=EF=FD=F1=E1=F2= wrote: > Well, if he had ethics he would have told me that his intentiosn were to = screw my business and also he could actually tried to help me out. I did. :) > I'am not incompetentm i;m a beginner and i learn along the way, also i ah= ve a hostign company and 3rd level tech that support me when it come to sys= tem administration. Beginners learning along the way do not run businesses. I wouldn't hire someone to build me a porch if he admits that he's still learning which end of the hammer to hit with. (That's understandable if it's a PHP hammer with claws on both ends, but I still wouldn't hire him.) And if I hired someone to build that porch and only afterward discovered that he didn't know a screw from a nail, I would be pretty miffed. Nikos, you are that carpenter. There's nothing wrong with being a beginner. We all start out that way. But a beginner plays with things that don't have major consequence. If you didn't have paying customers, you would not need to worry about what I might have done; at very worst, you just wipe the system and reinstall. (You DO have basic firewalling to make sure I can't damage any other box, right?) And even more so, if you didn't have paying customers, you would not be in a tizz about things. You could simply set the matter aside and come back later. This is safe. Don't do what you wouldn't stand for someone else doing. ChrisA