Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.106 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.82; '*S*': 0.03; 'messages.': 0.04; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'beginning.': 0.16; 'failed.': 0.16; 'debugging': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.21; 'errors': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'error': 0.27; 'mostly': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "i'm": 0.29; 'true.': 0.33; 'subject:?': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'too': 0.36; "didn't": 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'starting': 0.38; 'doing': 0.38; 'forget': 0.60; 'even': 0.61; 'contrary': 0.72; 'useful.': 0.72; 'attention': 0.75; 'impatient': 0.84; 'subject:Where': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91; 'habit': 0.91; 'thing,': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=j2Hg7Ufq2kKUM6IxFcRdaSygobR4Z+wbrxBHUnKla78=; b=ODKadTd/FpckBf7LllonHEdx9qD/l+cCx/1FIiHySh5uB6tgw1LZGL8tVVeZPtDKHf 6qBWWIQCQMBySxNWJLI30Ad5xwxTyhnyPQhm5/x8P90zBF+R6UhF8IVQ9nf36XbWfSF+ OpAo/QpJBvV4q/gNv8H3CIQAHF+aAK8UDWjFj6Y+eH/PGYM5ROtrpIbLERk8TnX6A/tR SmwouY/CTDcLX2f5c0LK8qqFU0qIvA6HizwJhPH+yJWHgsoeV7YbaeF2iyR3UkRdTW9F /ehFXRU/2FJ8a5uvhAe6RIMnB65wW8aRkuiy9TjP0PLGzbdJ1fcedKUnIfTgoI1DeKi0 CE5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.218.137 with SMTP id pg9mr18807500wic.79.1433151709421; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 02:41:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h9qraimu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <83a279a3-133d-4a50-9af3-054233bcc6af@googlegroups.com> <87h9qraimu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:41:49 +0200 Subject: Re: Where is 'palindrome' defined? From: David Palao To: Marko Rauhamaa Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1433151710 news.xs4all.nl 2836 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53863 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91641 2015-06-01 11:21 GMT+02:00 Marko Rauhamaa : > David Palao : > >> Because "palindrome" != "parlindrome"? >> Have you read the error message? Did you try to understand it? > > When you are starting with any new thing, even the simplest problems > look baffling. Once you have achieved a few successes, such error > messages start to make sense. > I didn't intend to be harsh. Sorry if I failed. Anyway, for me the errors provided by python are mostly very useful. When I forget to read them, or I'm simply too impatient to try to understand them, I use to get very hard debugging sessions. The contrary is often true. What I tried to emphasize is the importance of paying careful attention to the error messages. It is a good habit to start doing this from the beginning. Best