Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'wednesday,': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'testers.': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'choice,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:"]': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'subject:problem': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'breaking': 0.31; 'programmers': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'expensive': 0.39; 'launch': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'tell': 0.60; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'satellite': 0.68; 'skill': 0.68; 'safe': 0.72; 'top.': 0.84; 'rocket': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yATc+WMqdnSla0c71k73DYvol9j3baXV7u5amueziBY=; b=DpaOfklWkXrvdOJWfnf9lqPHiocdZCFOEfHTTDBjI78iGbREmGU0Z126ZjTGSlpywB 0ms1jtjQe5D395yzJuM4mzjRxd/DtuDINNAM0hd8mwNjda1SResMlfmr90VUSDpFBOb8 nIxXlW27IasHuMD+hM2tfhtMHqiv8BNpIY71GYbuphQkSEYng7k7VkPAZs9ihW03TPZd q488XOE3p3WBAOMaJDY0gme05v7jBormfRTWl6WTsyia2YF3joU5R0O7P+/LBt3Vc0dL E6CnjwFpyXADIQpHPIBu6D/a38GKwHUV918VvF0c0Qxw8ZWU3uxhc7HezwZqNrbJHwjs bx8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.121.99 with SMTP id lj3mr17397769vdb.52.1370451548302; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:59:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <31ca14e1-973d-44e6-886c-011a55755d76@googlegroups.com> References: <687dea63-84da-4c45-9366-cb5a10665d1f@googlegroups.com> <51ab95d5$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51ad7daf$0$11118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <31ca14e1-973d-44e6-886c-011a55755d76@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 02:59:07 +1000 Subject: Re: Bools and explicitness [was Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"] From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370451556 news.xs4all.nl 16005 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33357 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47112 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Russ P. wrote: > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:59:01 AM UTC-7, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> I want to launch this rocket with an expensive satellite on top. I know >> >> it's safe as the code is written in ADA. Whoops :( > > > So Python would have been a better choice? Yeah, right. If you know anything about that rocket mishap, you should know that Ada was not the source of the problem. Ada won't keep airplane wings from breaking either, by the way. It's not magic. Frankly, I don't think the language much matters. It's all down to the skill of the programmers and testers. Ada wasn't the source of the problem unless Ada has a bug in it... which is going to be true of pretty much any language. Maybe Python would be a better choice, maybe not; but let me tell you this, if the choice of language means the difference between testable in three months and testable code in three years, I'm going for the former. ChrisA