Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'sufficient': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'ugly': 0.07; 'explanation': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:Source': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'systems.': 0.12; 'question.': 0.14; 'sections': 0.14; 'barrier': 0.16; 'figure,': 0.16; 'ha!': 0.16; 'influential': 0.16; 'mythical': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'stupidity': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'threatened': 0.16; 'user?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'fit': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'this?': 0.23; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'either.': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; '+0200': 0.26; 'url:edu': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'wondering': 0.29; 'programming.': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'ball': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'alone': 0.33; 'date:': 0.34; 'computing': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'limitations': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'skip:- 20': 0.37; 'email addr:python.org': 0.37; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'subject:': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'greatest': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'black': 0.61; 'identify': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'effectively': 0.66; 'world': 0.66; 'direct': 0.67; 'watching': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; 'money': 0.72; 'site:': 0.83; 'endowed': 0.84; 'idiot': 0.84; 'isn\x92t': 0.84; 'literature': 0.84; 'white,': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'carlos': 0.91; 'rusi': 0.91; '\x93the': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Source code to identify user through browser? Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:31:46 +0100 References: <53e74d68-7bd0-4ee6-bb6c-f3f7724c9342@qz2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-174-199.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 In-Reply-To: <53e74d68-7bd0-4ee6-bb6c-f3f7724c9342@qz2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130605-1, 05/06/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370446301 news.xs4all.nl 15901 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39879 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47095 On 05/06/2013 16:18, rusi wrote: > On Jun 5, 8:10 pm, Carlos Nepomuceno > wrote: >>> From: nos...@nospam.com >>> Subject: Source code to identify user through browser? >>> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:08:54 +0200 >>> To: python-l...@python.org >> >>> Hello >> >>> I was wondering if some Python module were available to identify a >>> user through their browser, like it's done on the Panopticlick site: >> >> What do you mean by user? > > Ha! Nice question. Not in direct answer but here's E.W Dijkstra > defining 'user': > > [from http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD618.html > ] > ---------------------------- > The computer “user” isn’t a real person of flesh and blood, with > passions and brains. No, he is a mythical figure, and not a very > pleasant one either. A kind of mongrel with money but without taste, > an ugly caricature that is very uninspiring to work for. He is, as a > matter of fact, such an uninspiring idiot that his stupidity alone is > a sufficient explanation for the ugliness of most computer systems. > And oh! Is he uneducated! That is perhaps his most depressing > characteristic. He is equally education-resistant as another equally > mythical bore, “the average programmer”, whose solid stupidity is the > greatest barrier to progress in programming. It is a sad thought that > large sections of computing science are effectively paralyzed by the > narrow-mindedness and other grotesque limitations with which a poor > literature has endowed these influential mythical figures. (Computing > science is not unique in inventing such paralyzing caricatures: > universities all over the world are threatened by the invention of > “the average student”, scientific publishing is severely hampered by > the invention of “the innocent reader” and even “the poor reader”!) > Where does the Bastard Operator From Hell fit in this? :) -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence