Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'received:134': 0.05; 'root': 0.05; 'debug': 0.07; 'latter': 0.09; 'stating': 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'enough.': 0.16; 'existance': 0.16; 'subject:Apache': 0.16; 'subject:issue': 0.16; 'subject:run': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'working.': 0.19; 'help.': 0.21; 'example': 0.22; 'issue.': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'server.': 0.24; 'script': 0.25; 'shown': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'didnt': 0.31; 'ones.': 0.31; 'publicly': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'proceed': 0.33; 'programmers': 0.33; 'knows': 0.35; 'method': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'here': 0.66; 'yes': 0.68; 'person,': 0.68; 'friendly': 0.72; 'protect': 0.79; 'mins': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'trusted,': 0.84; 'wipe': 0.84; 'trustworthy': 0.91; 'subject:let': 0.93 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkEAF0Ur1GGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABav2yBbIELgRODEwUBBTIBRREJAiEPBw8JAwIBAgFFEwgCGoUrB4IfHo9OpRWIA48rFgKDQwOXP4YLizWDEQ Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:39:28 +0200 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116 Icedove/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script References: <20a49aac-3867-481f-96d4-c95a050781ed@googlegroups.com> <2ecc95c4-6114-49a6-ad47-df7bae4adfde@googlegroups.com> <592c84d8-2e86-4480-b784-c3ccadc8360d@googlegroups.com> <06fd6c2e-0979-4d61-b75a-6d9df7c1b624@googlegroups.com> <70390d65-5313-46bf-8110-b25f5fc9f76f@googlegroups.com> <8d52505a-7252-419b-8b4f-61e5ee56a78a@googlegroups.com> <2aef9194-ef36-45db-8c77-9510d3f14ebe@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370428837 news.xs4all.nl 15966 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55793 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47066 Op 05-06-13 11:19, Νικόλαος Κούρας schreef: > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it working. > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > Some dont. > Chris is na example of the latter. At least he didnt wipe the whoile system out. > And i do have access of my system 30 mins now. > And yes i will again root access to another person, which i beleive he can be trsuted and give me some friendly help. You believing so, is not enough. > Tha is all i have to say and i'm not naive or fool. > As i said some people can actually be trusted. Yes you are naive and a fool. The existance of trustworthy people is not the issue. The issue is how do you protect your server from the untrustworthy ones. Chris has shown you that your method for the latter sucks, yet here you are publicly stating you will just proceed in the same way. Someone with malice in mind has only to win your trust here or elsewhere by faking he wants to help you and you seem willing to give them the root password to your server. On top of that you have made it public that this will likely work. That certainly makes you naive and a fool. -- Antoon Pardon