Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.185 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.66; '*S*': 0.03; 'root': 0.05; 'seemed': 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; 'begging': 0.16; 'chris,': 0.16; 'for,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'made,': 0.16; 'subject:Apache': 0.16; 'subject:issue': 0.16; 'subject:run': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'admin': 0.22; 'fine': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'wonder': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'breaking': 0.31; 'fine,': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; "they'll": 0.31; 'though.': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'help,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'economy': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'term': 0.63; 'stand': 0.64; 'money': 0.72; 'applying': 0.72; 'cultural': 0.74; 'income.': 0.74; 'bank': 0.76; 'cameras,': 0.84; 'comment.': 0.84; 'complaint': 0.84; 'everything.': 0.84; 'greece': 0.84; 'strangers': 0.84; 'regret': 0.91; 'sorry.': 0.91; 'trouble.': 0.91; 'subject:let': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lEYFfrNYmgMC5xi3wv5nUpxdTqjjLY+X5IuKr/tcLcQ=; b=VE2cWN6fWlOH4GEEsDxkla7T9sHP8HduK8hpmoyKUU5vBDuXJttoS2LyRuFSmPocBz CkVNuk30bMo6WHM5DU0W91j9KzNj/Ae1dxMurBVv4krkpd3G40w71Z7wWQtmSNUaBPOt hQOHubOSUCST5A1ng7lhIT4GdwC9Lb3viknxftU/jge600VYdIIp97t0S5otMFlS4Dwv Fa+YryZ2bn/FyCSlEhnAQMm+MFhHQfLEdATIPy8f6XiAUuHzKOPnJTf96Biir0Z970X0 9HM8R5ej0VAXrNN5RoOOSvFYIeAbLe9X2ijCXSgPgZs9/3z68Wcl4AIiGB6bxBmRjfXq fPew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.214.105 with SMTP id nz9mr6342315vec.58.1370427175945; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:12:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20a49aac-3867-481f-96d4-c95a050781ed@googlegroups.com> <592c84d8-2e86-4480-b784-c3ccadc8360d@googlegroups.com> <06fd6c2e-0979-4d61-b75a-6d9df7c1b624@googlegroups.com> <70390d65-5313-46bf-8110-b25f5fc9f76f@googlegroups.com> <8d52505a-7252-419b-8b4f-61e5ee56a78a@googlegroups.com> <2aef9194-ef36-45db-8c77-9510d3f14ebe@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:12:55 +1000 Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370427185 news.xs4all.nl 15898 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40940 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47059 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, alex23 wrote: > On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. > > This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't the first time the > joke has been made, but could we not? There's a term for applying the > failings of an individual to an entire genetic or cultural collective, > and it isn't a pretty one. Sorry. You're right, that was un-called-for. I retract that comment. My main point I still stand by, though. These people are paying good money for a service that probably seems fine, to them. It's probably seemed fine for several years, even. But underneath, the systems admin is constantly breaking stuff and then coming in a panic to an open forum, begging for help, and then giving root access to strangers in the hope that they'll magically fix everything. This is not the sort of service I would pay for, and this is why I do not regret the potential damage to Nikos's revenue. The complaint is equivalent to begging a bank not to put in security cameras, because bank robbers might get less income. ChrisA