Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'causing': 0.04; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'root': 0.05; 'hosts': 0.07; "client's": 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; '-rf': 0.16; 'headaches': 0.16; 'hits': 0.16; 'remain,': 0.16; 'right:': 0.16; 'size)': 0.16; 'subject:Apache': 0.16; 'subject:issue': 0.16; 'subject:run': 0.16; 'utterly': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'connected': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'somewhere': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'away.': 0.31; 'consequence': 0.31; 'pipe': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'community': 0.33; 'are:': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'copying': 0.34; "who's": 0.35; 'data,': 0.36; 'installing': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'extremely': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'matter': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'complete': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'networking': 0.64; 'due': 0.66; 'integrity': 0.74; 'hand': 0.80; 'bot': 0.84; 'careless': 0.84; 'internets': 0.84; 'provider,': 0.84; 'refusing': 0.84; 'trusted,': 0.84; 'refuse': 0.93; 'subject:let': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=modelnine.org; s=modelnine1012; t=1370426152; bh=6x416yE/ihM8Ix824qyTuVc41hztflGQ0LUV1sm6e+A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EuWGOfqOqVpMBdKZC7iSb+exJxWBIgE8PZAApVCAglpVcvHvb5dIKpxn8SSfzH3fm TAVKKmVH8b9nyqeMlLxn+QI57YtOa2sKjsuxmPHSj6MdcjGJclM9PUeyZiFGL6uQDY ErPuVhlL1jrWYJX4L89tNdrKCR6HIEA5gQUn5Ebs= Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:55:49 +0200 From: Heiko Wundram User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script References: <20a49aac-3867-481f-96d4-c95a050781ed@googlegroups.com> <592c84d8-2e86-4480-b784-c3ccadc8360d@googlegroups.com> <06fd6c2e-0979-4d61-b75a-6d9df7c1b624@googlegroups.com> <70390d65-5313-46bf-8110-b25f5fc9f76f@googlegroups.com> <8d52505a-7252-419b-8b4f-61e5ee56a78a@googlegroups.com> <2aef9194-ef36-45db-8c77-9510d3f14ebe@googlegroups.com> <51AEFF0F.50605@modelnine.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370426154 news.xs4all.nl 15930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52498 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47058 Am 05.06.2013 11:33, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: > It will remain, if you go away. Look, pal, I work as a programmer for a (medium size) network service provider, and due to that I (should) know my networking security 101. It's generally people like you who are: 1) extremely careless about their system 2) intolerably naive and persistently refusing to learn and who as a consequence hand out root logins for hosts with big (!) pipes to people that should - under no circumstances ever, EVER - be trusted, who are in turn causing the scourge of the public internets that's called a botnet. It doesn't matter whether you're simply so stupid (yes, I said it!) as to hand out actual root logins or whether you refuse to update your system or whether you use weak passwords: in all cases, your system is compromised, and due to the rather big pipe that your system has it in turn compromises the integrity of the whole network that the system is connected to. Chris is completely right: you shouldn't thank him for not doing 'rm -rf /' on your system (that's utter peanuts, and only hits you), you should rather thank him for not copying your complete client data (and in turn their client's data, let's talk about identity theft) and/or for not installing a bot on your system which would in turn cause me to have headaches when the bot's misused to DDoS or for any other form of network-based attack on the network that I need to administer. It's you who's the untrustworthy, completely unreliable and utterly irresponsible member of the community of networks that's called the Internet. Please go somewhere else. -- --- Heiko.