Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.051 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; "'''": 0.09; 'normally,': 0.09; 'pgp': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'key:': 0.16; 'language:': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'routinely': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.21; 'to:2**1': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'tim': 0.24; 'signed': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'asked': 0.28; 'subject:other': 0.29; 'terry': 0.29; 'connection': 0.30; "can't": 0.32; 'subject:all': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'done': 0.35; 'identity': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'self': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'your': 0.60; 'confirm': 0.61; 'trusted': 0.62; 'more': 0.62; 'secure.': 0.66; 'subject:have': 0.80; 'received:75.145': 0.84; "site's": 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.88; 'net.': 0.91; 'verified.': 0.93 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 06:12:32 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python To: Terry Reedy , python-list@python.org CC: 0@plane.gmane.org Subject: Re: Ah Python, you have spoiled me for all other languages References: <555f440a$0$12990$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <555FA253.3020304@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Sat, 23 May 2015 06:12:33 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: t4NBCWP9092635 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1432379567 news.xs4all.nl 2927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56583 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91112 On 05/22/2015 08:54 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/22/2015 5:40 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Lo these many years ago, I argued that Python is a whole lot more than >> a programming language: >> >> https://www.tundraware.com/TechnicalNotes/Python-Is-Middleware/ > > Perhaps something at tundraware needs updating. > ''' > This Connection is Untrusted > > You have asked Firefox to connect securely to www.tundraware.com, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. > > Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified. > ''' > It's self signed - something done quite routinely on the net. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/