Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.137 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.74; '*S*': 0.01; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'root': 0.05; 'suppose': 0.07; 'subject:script': 0.09; 'posted': 0.15; 'cpanel,': 0.16; 'decisions,': 0.16; 'enough.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'rent': 0.16; 'sorts': 0.16; 'subject:Apache': 0.16; 'subject:issue': 0.16; 'subject:run': 0.16; 'utterly': 0.16; 'violated': 0.16; 'way;': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'addition,': 0.20; '(in': 0.22; 'directory.': 0.24; 'password.': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'is?': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'question:': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; "user's": 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'this.': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'entirely': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'third': 0.33; 'there,': 0.34; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'data,': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'changed': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'money.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'course': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'stand': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'chance': 0.65; 'lose': 0.68; 'home': 0.69; 'price': 0.69; 'money': 0.72; 'saw': 0.77; 'yourself': 0.78; "everything's": 0.84; 'fuck': 0.84; 'ridiculously': 0.84; 'safer': 0.84; 'trust;': 0.84; 'mails': 0.89; 'trustworthy': 0.91; 'angry': 0.93; 'subject:let': 0.93; 'clients,': 0.95; 'serious': 0.97; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4soCa6m8bB7TIIA++5BcmjZdkkzjYmUrSSKcbKB8zic=; b=PGRm/UYLLJZLk1XFfZboL1IA9MNA6oCwRTGKl+Qm3mD1vg7IosVkuZn9nKgKBYQ3n1 TXmKPl4x6/WCYjXQ4dNne1vFbRuQCcFaeuqUxqFQgfI37LQU2qcfCF/Kfx7jugOeZGog qM5Wb9JxlgRyusoPSzOm7KLrLSyUJsiuR0/26nOEwjDpL9psEqcCvIRVe3JYl7TRL3Jp 0Fazsj5M1rhr/8FZEy/qAtN5IM9r7SNmnGdDthlxhLuHxjoUatJ0nBHc1YS0Mc4D3sTt GAgnYzIgo6FLXXARfM4NhFjrT316JlgcWGtLhpyIBVwZtjqWRL5XTRwZVcauDv8Sp6h4 6HUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.65.238 with SMTP id a14mr16913608vdt.24.1370421715207; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:41:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8d52505a-7252-419b-8b4f-61e5ee56a78a@googlegroups.com> References: <20a49aac-3867-481f-96d4-c95a050781ed@googlegroups.com> <51AD70E8.70506@gmail.com> <6c0ed9da-0f29-4b6b-a804-771763454dd4@googlegroups.com> <4ed43a69-0dfe-4078-a836-db5201811761@googlegroups.com> <2e1dbdc2-6bca-4c4e-93b0-4c0cddb72bc1@googlegroups.com> <03d8964e-7cea-4072-b1f1-19d83e494191@googlegroups.com> <4b65cdfe-b6c2-4d97-8623-77b10711bf78@googlegroups.com> <2ecc95c4-6114-49a6-ad47-df7bae4adfde@googlegroups.com> <592c84d8-2e86-4480-b784-c3ccadc8360d@googlegroups.com> <06fd6c2e-0979-4d61-b75a-6d9df7c1b624@googlegroups.com> <70390d65-5313-46bf-8110-b25f5fc9f76f@googlegroups.com> <8d52505a-7252-419b-8b4f-61e5ee56a78a@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:41:55 +1000 Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370421723 news.xs4all.nl 15990 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43242 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47035 On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, =CD=E9=EA=FC=EB=E1=EF=F2 =CA=EF=FD=F1=E1=F2= wrote: > > I gave you out of my good and trustworthy heart my root password so for y= ou to look upon my systrem configuration and all you did was trying to fuck= me by sending mails to my clients? That would be "trusting", not "trustworthy", and I did make it pretty clear what I was proposing. > How am i suppose to change the roor password from a normal user account?(= "nikos")? You don't. You log in as the normal user and look in your normal user's home directory. In there, you will find a file giving you the root password. It's safer that way; everything's done over SSH. > Other 3 times i hve gavein people my root password and they all trid to h= elp me out, only you screwed me like this. > > If i lose some of my clients, will you been paying for the money loss? No, I will not. I never made you any promise. If you lose some of your clients, it is because you have made some very poor decisions, including to tinker live with this server instead of having a staging area. All I've done is give your clients a chance to know what you're doing with their data, which I think is fair enough. > Do you think this server i rent comes for free with cPanel, Softaculous a= nd other licenses? Of course not. (In my opinion, cpanel is ridiculously overpriced.) Most of these sorts of things are either overkill, or utterly trivial; if you need it, the price is immaterial, but most people simply don't. Before you get too angry at me, ask yourself this question: Would you stand for someone giving out access to your system to a third party? Because that's exactly what you did to your clients. You gave me, a perfect stranger, full access to *THEIR* data. Do you understand how serious that is? In addition, you posted me the password in clear text via email. That's why I changed it - it's entirely possible someone saw the password in transmission. This matter is far more serious than you seem to be giving it consideration for. You complain that I violated your trust; you violated the trust of people who are paying you money. ChrisA