Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'scripts': 0.09; 'python': 0.09; 'commonly': 0.09; 'rigorous': 0.09; 'statistical': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'language': 0.14; 'cases': 0.15; 'c++.': 0.16; 'commercially': 0.16; 'financials': 0.16; 'fits': 0.16; 'message- id:@unknownmsgid': 0.16; 'scripts.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'prototype': 0.17; 'shell': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'trying': 0.21; 'java': 0.21; 'converted': 0.22; 'work,': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'apps': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'testing': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'implemented': 0.27; 'c++': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.28; 'analytical': 0.29; 'deploy': 0.29; 'gil': 0.29; 'perl': 0.29; 'questions.': 0.29; 'wrap': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'subject: ?': 0.30; 'implement': 0.32; 'received:209.85.160.46': 0.32; 'doubt': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'thanks': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'along': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'alone': 0.36; 'development.': 0.36; 'test': 0.36; 'option': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'unit': 0.38; 'application': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'stand': 0.61; 'side': 0.61; 'developed': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'iphone': 0.62; 'our': 0.65; 'jul': 0.65; 'ago.': 0.66; 'subject:proposition': 0.84; 'to:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.84; 'kat': 0.91; 'traders': 0.91; 'serious': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=4pGtqwo8D0ywbvyC4klj3Pm8ysI4zNSrkcwMC1O5r+M=; b=YXpPm2yBe8dhkNBos4yIH+UoIlFJ5b4cNxijF9GESj6ByXhpa9NW1pO95mI/Wf+Fob axAqELnzYP/8jQghPg/ofX2km5QGGH/A3vONZx7wQdC5Q69nqt6/5hJL3B9NWKDP4Dum 6NDPS4IcCjGyNCQpt0Km7qFGkqDMk5MUXisfKXgpmNhk3cIAhj9rd3MbiSi71eoXHA2i 7dQpmygNAs4CskWNHxDHHVJMmjpofJkQ0pLeAP70NKMysfmGIx5SHFxUeW3OHo2z/zvT hh6K4IuRDGyoaDZxTP82I1RtR0PgSYN2nAoyqEnYEDM7lHnQ7aZx9412GC1RFs+kBXgQ RnbA== References: From: Rodrick Brown In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:12:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Is Python a commercial proposition ? To: lipska the kat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343607170 news.xs4all.nl 6865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54217 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26218 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, lipska the kat wrote: > Pythoners > > Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions. > > I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly available, commercially used languages of the moment. Python is a glue language much like Perl was 10 years ago. Until the GIL is fixed I doubt anyone will seriously look at Python as an option for large enterprise standalone application development. I work in financials and the majority of our apps are developed in C++ and Java yet all the tools that startup, deploy and conduct rigorous unit testing are implemented in Python or Shell scripts that wrap Python scripts. Python definitely has its place in the enterprise however not so much for serious stand alone app development. I'm starting to see Python used along side many statistical and analytical tools like R, SPlus, and Mathlab for back testing and prototype work, in a lot of cases I've seen quants and traders implement models in Python to back test and if successful converted to Java or C++.