Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:34:04 -0600 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <56f9cffb$0$1614$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56FA00EC.80909@gmail.com> <56FA537F.9090506@mail.de> <56FB0FF6.3000305@harvee.org> <56FBA577.6070607@mail.de> <587D892E-8ED0-4B41-AAC9-E40A89477B91@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Qznc0rBBlSQB0AGdBDB0OwSIgpzjRcCZ/1Jp9bp+WR1w== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.065 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'thu,': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; 'pages:': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:Learning': 0.16; 'subject:programmer': 0.16; 'travis': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; '31,': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'second': 0.24; 'tim': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'module': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'this.': 0.28; 'follows': 0.29; 'too.': 0.30; 'subject:) ': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.33; 'source': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'curious': 0.33; 'surprised': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'heard': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'difference': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'url:t': 0.62; '30,': 0.63; 'hear': 0.64; 'mar': 0.65; 'american': 0.69; '2:36': 0.84; 'i\xe2\x80\x99ll': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.85; 'zealand': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n6VyltvAEQpk/WkLJcr3bB5b0vKOFXitGF+vyJo8xo0=; b=SoZTKW571Rql81KoUVXcwFOn8PnT9kUbIFcdAZHCvSNbWUhbzx8ayFcZtGSyEHJYsu z3o/ZGtwVAAPYkzy906ZROvEDTdO039X/cwBxVfRXeTpXxmvm92E/8feEfp9pDiex5em A6BxLPow06FyjetG5ny0nR5EMNYXnWGg7hhN28mwZD6uLvRXE3e29BlYbeufkUJOINrS li/dXW9PDKjRaB5RU5t74vve8eYTUyfUbBs6IOdlb5hrmKgy0spMm0GUG7pErFhtCD0B bKho0/rOIm9VLK4gq3QltnQcsIcB8fSFzcsFmnXpgvVIuT04lXOaf4Cc2ebi5IGgIfO8 /qQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n6VyltvAEQpk/WkLJcr3bB5b0vKOFXitGF+vyJo8xo0=; b=Dra0In/sWfC29GcEd5jED+XemnFf9leXdCaMpetCrXUYNwJHF0jBOo09awmJCepRzu 6+h7qoqjF/3NF68uiFJ7zmhHzXk6ldshqWl2Qv45AjivvZZBww8xmGECrtGFzekq3kHd p6lKoHgX7PzBJkDl6a7kA2tZ9jg73uMrqDiSUJ/rjy9voYcsrKqyTLNdGp0amAFUiKsr uloEiGRow/98nj3i7S99Ym+OTmsLt/sC70co6Tgp4wasNMwes0B2KkaCEmObbTq04mht Vf4gBZ4y/NwxTwiA+moHcxdUxKYWU0Qf+ZwfDd3V7/Bg43KbCgGtx0Ub5abJB7ARI9gb AtkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIUS29WSKbtobyNdxhWEtDrT9WOJ9Ba2acU48C002/TsW6MexJxIPakC+r5U3sH7DyA5wqzapco0iPFBg== X-Received: by 10.50.13.36 with SMTP id e4mr530022igc.85.1459442084235; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:34:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <587D892E-8ED0-4B41-AAC9-E40A89477B91@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106173 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Travis Griggs wr= ote: > >> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Gregory Ewing = wrote: >> >> Tim Golden wrote: >> >>> (I don't know how other English-speaking groups say the word, but in >>> England the first syllable is stressed and the second is the >>> conventional short "uh" sound). >> >> I can attest that New Zealand follows the UK on this. I was >> surprised when I first heard an American pronounce it too. >> >> The curious can hear the difference on these pages: >> >> British: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/python >> American: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/python?s=3Dt > > That does it. If I ever make some sort of open source module for pythun/p= ythawn I=E2=80=99ll be sure to call it either tuhmayto/tomawto. Or maybe I= =E2=80=99ll call it puhtayto/potawto. Pytato?